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On 9/16/2026 at 11:51 AM, 7Mary3 said:

I missed this.  Interesting that Roush is working with Freightliner on integrating the upcoming new GM L8S 6.6L gasoline engine into Freightliner vehicles, I would have thought Roush would be pushing the Ford 7.3L:

 

https://www.worktruckweek.com/articles/fccc-announces-collaboration-roush-power-systems-development-next-generation-gas-engine

Yeah you would have thought that! I wonder what Ford thinks about this! Betrayal? Did they know? Wherever the money is, that's where we go these days. Loyalty means nothing. I wonder what the future holds for the Ford Roush propane engine that Bluebird Bus uses on their Vision sloped-hood buses.

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47 minutes ago, Joe771476 said:

Yeah you would have thought that! I wonder what Ford thinks about this! Betrayal? Did they know? Wherever the money is, that's where we go these days. Loyalty means nothing. I wonder what the future holds for the Ford Roush propane engine that Bluebird Bus uses on their Vision sloped-hood buses.

 

Loyalty?!? It's all about making $$ in a capitalistic system that also enhances investor value. 

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Bluebird has committed to using the Ford 7.3L until 2030.  Also, Bluebird has stated they will use the 7.3L in the F-53 and F-59 stripped chassis now that Bluebird owns them and Detroit Chassis.  Roush has set up a new division specifically to handle GM engine and transmission integration for other OEM's, so it isn't like Roush is walking away from Ford.

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4 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

Yeah you would have thought that! I wonder what Ford thinks about this! Betrayal? Did they know? Wherever the money is, that's where we go these days. Loyalty means nothing. I wonder what the future holds for the Ford Roush propane engine that Bluebird Bus uses on their Vision sloped-hood buses.


That's not how it works.  Freightliner picked GM then hired Rousch.  No betrayal.

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2 hours ago, akirby said:


That's not how it works.  Freightliner picked GM then hired Rousch.  No betrayal.

 

Yes, it seems that Roush Power Systems has replaced Powertrain Solutions International as powertrain integrator for GM engines and transmissions in Freightliner vehicles.  It's interesting to note that Roush has been a G.M. supplier for nearly 30 years and was G.M.'s Supplier of the Year for 2025.  Given the state of supplier relations at Ford and G.M. I'll wager Roush was probably happy to have G.M. as a customer... 

 

Freightliner has used G.M. gasoline engines for many years and probably did select the upcoming L8S 6.6L for their chassis models.  The L96 6.0L and L8T 6.6L have been very reliable for Freightliner and are used with Allison automatic transmissions.

 

Still, it is strange to hear Roush associated with G.M..      

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On 9/18/2026 at 9:52 AM, twintornados said:

 

Loyalty?!? It's all about making $$ in a capitalistic system that also enhances investor value. 

Every time Ford sold off a unit like Philco, Farm tractor, Class 8, JLR, the stock price went down!

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23 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

Every time Ford sold off a unit like Philco, Farm tractor, Class 8, JLR, the stock price went down!

 

Well heck, how do you know if Ford's stock price would have fallen further had they NOT sold off those turkeys?

 

Philco for sure, as I remember their T.V.'s were not that great and weren't they involved in that Sgt. York weapons system fiasco?  Ford did well buying New Holland in 1986, combining it with Ford Tractor, and selling the whole deal to Fiat in 1991.

 

We have beat the class 8 truck thing to death.  Yes, they were making a little money in that business but selling the line to Freightliner, even at a loss, was a sound move because it enabled Ford to convert KTP to produce the highly profitable Super Duty line.

 

JLR?  Seriously?  Ford should have NEVER bought that mess to begin with.  

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1 hour ago, 7Mary3 said:

 

Well heck, who do you know if Ford's stock price would have fallen further had they NOT sold off those turkeys?

 

Philco for sure, as I remember their T.V.'s were not that great and weren't they involved in that Sgt. York weapons system fiasco?  Ford did well buying New Holland in 1986, combining it with Ford Tractor, and selling the whole deal to Fiat in 1991.

 

We have beat the class 8 truck thing to death.  Yes, they were making a little money in that business but selling the line to Freightliner, even at a loss, was a sound move because it enabled Ford to convert KTP to produce the highly profitable Super Duty line.

 

JLR?  Seriously?  Ford should have NEVER bought that mess to begin with.  

Philco was more than TV's, It was the precursor to Ford Aerospace. JLR? They paid billions, spent billions improving the manufacturing process, then gave it away for peanuts! Like I said before, in their hearts, Ford didn't want JLR to succeed and take Lincoln biz. Ford doesn't know what do with anything that isn't branded Ford or Lincoln. Like I also said in here, at the end of WWII, the US govt. offered Ford VW and Ford passed. But do you think VW would have survived under Ford? No way! Tractors? I'm not sure of the history order without searching, but Ford sold it to New Holland, then it became CNH, Fiat-New Holland, or something like that. It's a huge company today whatever its called.  I won't get into class 8, but if VW is going to make a pickup, then Ford should go into class 8 and make VW/Traton Group/Navistar sweat! If you blink your eyes, a company has changed ownership. What's going to happen when the Ford bloodline gets watered down?  I know they have a poison pill to deter takeovers, but how long will that last?

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4 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

JLR? They paid billions, spent billions improving the manufacturing process, then gave it away for peanuts!

They “gave it away” because they were trying to save the company in the middle of a financial crisis.

 

4 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

Like I said before, in their hearts, Ford didn't want JLR to succeed and take Lincoln biz.

Repeating an incorrect statement doesn’t make it correct.

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I am hearing 6.7L Powerstroke powered F-650's and 750's will again be available in California for the 2028 model year.  Order banks will open Oct. 13th. and the 2028 MY production will start Jan. 11th, 2027.

 

Ford has committed to medium duty production at Avon Lake through April 2028 under the current UAW contract.  

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On 9/20/2026 at 5:22 PM, 7Mary3 said:

JLR?  Seriously?  Ford should have NEVER bought that mess to begin with.  

I remember reading an article back when Ford bought Jaguar and finding out just how bad the line actually was...but, these were all "vanity" purchases because Jacques Nasser could not bare being limo'ed around in "just a Lincoln"....

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52 minutes ago, twintornados said:

I remember reading an article back when Ford bought Jaguar and finding out just how bad the line actually was...but, these were all "vanity" purchases because Jacques Nasser could not bare being limo'ed around in "just a Lincoln"....

Ford bought Jag in ‘89, while Nasser was at Ford Australia, so I don’t think that one can be laid at his feet.

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I saw that.  I think Ford is kind of off base with that whole commercial vehicle CPO thing.  First off, most commercial vehicles, particularly those owned by fleets, are not traded in like personal vehicles.  Commercial vehicles are usually kept to the end of their economic life, the point where they are fully depreciated and mechanically 'used up'.  After that they are often auctioned off.  I am not sure why Ford seems to think there are a bunch of F-650 owners thinking about trading in!  

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41 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said:

I saw that.  I think Ford is kind of off base with that whole commercial vehicle CPO thing.  First off, most commercial vehicles, particularly those owned by fleets, are not traded in like personal vehicles.  Commercial vehicles are usually kept to the end of their economic life, the point where they are fully depreciated and mechanically 'used up'.  After that they are often auctioned off.  I am not sure why Ford seems to think there are a bunch of F-650 owners thinking about trading in!  


I don't know either but I find it amusing how you and Joe continually question Ford's judgement on commercial vehicles when Ford is the industry leader and Ford Pro is going like gangbusters.  Remember that pro includes small businesses and government fleets not just F650s.

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