ford4v429 Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 saw yet another recall on the windstars, and one for F150 gas tank straps... maybe my 90 yr old buddy can get his 03 windstar bought back and junked for a couple grand... he woulda gladly sold it for 2-3k a couple years ago, but ford decided to fix it- paid 5 months rental car, replaced rear axle/brakes/cables, and a bunch of bandaids on the front subframe- the dealer let it sit so long waiting on parts they even had to replace his year old battery... I bet they blew >5k on fixing between parts/labor/rental...was a kinda silly way they decided between repairs and scrapping. doubt he put 500 miles on it since the last recalls, he was afraid of it falling apart after reading about all the structural concerns that led to the last recall, but he wont sell it because he said if it ever broke and hurt somebody he couldnt take it... he dont drive anymore, but keeps the van running/insured 'just in case'...I hope he dont drive anymore- ive known him a long time, it sucks he cant, but it was time for him to hang up his keys...just wish he'd get rid of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 No excuse for stuck carbon up sparkplugs. And sparkplugs shooting out of cylinder heads. Those problems should have been caught in testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 No excuse for stuck carbon up sparkplugs. And sparkplugs shooting out of cylinder heads. Those problems should have been caught in testing. Absolutely. But there can be extenuating circumstances. e.g. On the 2000-2002 LS there was a last minute change in the material in the window track. When tested they worked fine even under prolonged use. What they did not test was letting the windows sit unopened for several weeks in high heat, then opening the windows. The new material bonded to the glass putting extra pressure on the regulator eventually causing it to fail - but only if you didn't regularly open the windows (typically the rear). That's simply not a test scenario that anyone would have thought of ahead of time. Not saying that was the issue with the spark plugs - that could have just been an oversight - but there are situations like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Absolutely. But there can be extenuating circumstances. e.g. On the 2000-2002 LS there was a last minute change in the material in the window track. When tested they worked fine even under prolonged use. What they did not test was letting the windows sit unopened for several weeks in high heat, then opening the windows. The new material bonded to the glass putting extra pressure on the regulator eventually causing it to fail - but only if you didn't regularly open the windows (typically the rear). That's simply not a test scenario that anyone would have thought of ahead of time. Not saying that was the issue with the spark plugs - that could have just been an oversight - but there are situations like that. I hear what your saying. But a material change is one thing and they should have looked more closely at the properties of the materials. But that's neither here nor there. But sparkplugs? They certainly know about carbon build up and they certainly know about cylinder pressures. Maybe the bean counters again? Stuff like sparkplugs should not have ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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