ehaase Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 This vehicle would get the same fuel economy if it had the 3.5L V6 instead of the 2.3 EB, so I really question the use of these EcoBoost engines, except as a performance option in the smaller cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Escape has never had a 3.5L V6 engine. Doubtful it would fit and doubtful it would get the same EPA fuel economy. Edited May 8, 2014 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkisler Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 My MKC 2.0 EB FWD was produced this week; not shipped yet. Sometimes these early units have a rather substantial hold time at the plant until everything is sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 My MKC 2.0 EB FWD was produced this week; not shipped yet. Sometimes these early units have a rather substantial hold time at the plant until everything is sorted out. If it was ordered and produced this week that means the Okay to ship has been given and they have started building custom units. Any one see one at a dealership - should be rolling in over the next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 If it was ordered and produced this week that means the Okay to ship has been given and they have started building custom units. Any one see one at a dealership - should be rolling in over the next week. Nope. Austin is an employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Nope. Austin is an employee. Austin is it a pool/Ford lease car? I know early production used to end up as those. Like others have said custom dealer orders don't get produced until the okay to ship has been given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 This vehicle would get the same fuel economy if it had the 3.5L V6 instead of the 2.3 EB, so I really question the use of these EcoBoost engines, except as a performance option in the smaller cars. Difference is that the 2.3L has considerable more torque and more torque lower than the 3.5L has. Explorer 3.5L has 290hp but only 255ft/lbs @ 4000rmp, 2.3L is 285hp but 305ft/lbs @ 2750rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Well the Volvo also has the E-tron unit, also when you look at Diesels you're at 24/27/31 for the Q5, 24/28/33 for the GLK and 27/30/34 for the X3. All of which soundly beat the MKC. Gas Mileage is semi-competitive at best with the MKC for a new vehicle. Lincoln is going to need a high mileage version of this car to be competitive in the market. Those diesel models are also about $5,000 more than MKC 2.3 so it is what it is... you pay to play. For apples to apples comparison, MKC 2.3 is pretty much right in the thick of the competition in terms of MPG. But I agree with the person that mentioned up thread that there should have been a hybrid model given the success Lincoln has had with MKZ Hybrid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 While 4,000 lbs seem heavy for a compact Utility at first glance, I bet it has a lovely solid feel, probably quiet as a graveyard inside too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkisler Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Austin is it a pool/Ford lease car? I know early production used to end up as those. Like others have said custom dealer orders don't get produced until the okay to ship has been given. For clarification, I'm a retiree, but still have access to a lease car each year. Here's how it works: With new models, such as the MKC, Ford will sometimes give us a bit of a break on the lease fee to encourage orders (that's the good part; bad part to follow). We place our orders early (mine was placed in December). That gives the plant a slew of buildable, clean orders that they can produce early. Some of the production for the lease cars is actually pre-<J1>, but they are serialized, saleable units. These early vehicles are assessed by plant personnel and engineering for issues. In terms of shipping, they are not released until the plant has authority to release retail units also. The bad news is this. If there are any problems that caused a produce-and-hold situation, the retail units are repaired first (which is the right thing to do), and there can often times be delays in receiving the lease car. So I'm not expecting mine for a couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Forgot you had retired but I knew there was a special process for those orders. I also want to be a retiree when I grow up, but I have about 8 more years. Edited May 9, 2014 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 For clarification, I'm a retiree, but still have access to a lease car each year. Here's how it works: With new models, such as the MKC, Ford will sometimes give us a bit of a break on the lease fee to encourage orders (that's the good part; bad part to follow). We place our orders early (mine was placed in December). That gives the plant a slew of buildable, clean orders that they can produce early. Some of the production for the lease cars is actually pre-<J1>, but they are serialized, saleable units. These early vehicles are assessed by plant personnel and engineering for issues. In terms of shipping, they are not released until the plant has authority to release retail units also. The bad news is this. If there are any problems that caused a produce-and-hold situation, the retail units are repaired first (which is the right thing to do), and there can often times be delays in receiving the lease car. So I'm not expecting mine for a couple of months. Ah still the same way as before then, can usually tell when the new lease cars get released. In a few days the roads around Detroit will be full of MKC's with April tags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) 2.0 Ecoboost is to be built in Cleveland engine plant as of late 2014, it woud make a lot of sense to add a 2.3 line there.for use in North American cars and utilities. Edited May 10, 2014 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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