papilgee4evaeva Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Automobile So the 1.5EB is the middle engine, and there's only one transmission available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Im starting to wonder if Fords thinking is manuals arent mainstream, more special edition niche...will we see an ST Fusion?.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Im starting to wonder if Fords thinking is manuals arent mainstream, more special edition niche...will we see an ST Fusion?.. It's not just Ford. Manual trannies are going away in mainstream cars for all manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 FoE's 1.6EB production is stretched to the max and I'm betting that the take rate of the MT wasn't that great this change finishes the supply contract with Bridgend and sees FNA sourcing its 1.5 EBs from Craiova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 It's not just Ford. Manual trannies are going away in mainstream cars for all manufacturers. Guess i will be buying performance versions from now on....lol, anyone know when the ST Transit connect is being released?...lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 If you want one there are still some in the supply pipeline. I was just looking for that combo! I wish they would combine it with the 2.5 normally aspirated 4 as in the old Fusion. Could be they are "creating" demand for an ST variant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I think they just decided to drop the 1.6L earlier than expected. We could see a 1.5L manual soon or maybe they are saving it for a ST. Hard to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 If you want one there are still some in the supply pipeline. I was just looking for that combo! I wish they would combine it with the 2.5 normally aspirated 4 as in the old Fusion. Could be they are "creating" demand for an ST variant? Creating demand? Doubt it. I don't think dropping the manual on a 180-hp engine will make folks want to buy a 300-hp variant just so they can say they have a manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 That's a shame. My dad just bought one a few months ago with the 1.5 MT and he loves it. I liked driving it so much I was planning on getting one within the next few months. Oh well, I guess its back to the focus for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) That's a shame. My dad just bought one a few months ago with the 1.5 MT and he loves it. I liked driving it so much I was planning on getting one within the next few months. Oh well, I guess its back to the focus for me. If its a 1.5L it is a Auto, you can't get a manual with it. (manual are all 1.6L)You should still be able to find a dealer stock unit with a manual in a few months. I just looked and there are more manuals than I thought there would be in stock. Edited July 13, 2014 by jasonj80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 If its a 1.5L it is a Auto, you can't get a manual with it. (manual are all 1.6L)You should still be able to find a dealer stock unit with a manual in a few months. I just looked and there are more manuals than I thought there would be in stock. And that's probably the reason behind Ford ending that option - slow selling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Let them drop it. Small companies like Mazda are there to p ick up the scraps with 6 speed manuals ect..... They are now on my radar because of little things like this. Ford is not a damn bit better in any class than Mazda but they are bigger. That speaks volumes to me given what Ford has available with resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 On cars.com, Fusion dealer stock at the moment is 34,460 and of that, around 203 are manual transmissions. If there was indeed strong demand for a manual, Ford would not be cancelling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Preliminary details on the new Mondeo from Ford Germany's info is that the 2.0L EcoBoost 203hp and 240hp are offered only with the automatic 6F transmission. The 1.5L EcoBoost is offered with both 6spd manual and 6F transmissions, and charging a EUR2,000.00 additional for the automatic :do what: That's almost 3 grand US$ more. Edited July 14, 2014 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sad! I doubt we will see a stick in a Fusion other than the ST if we see that. I don't really blame Ford if no one is buying. It is just sad that not enough people care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) When less than 1% of your stock at hand are manual transmissions, it's pretty obvious that buyers have made the choice long before Ford did. IMO, Ford has gone above and beyond offering a MT to an indifferent market. Edited July 14, 2014 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainLion Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 If they dropped it then the business case just isn't there for it. Looks like I'll have to make mine last as long as possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) I wonder what percentage of Fusion shoppers even know/knew that a 6 speed manual existed. I think the saying "you can't connect the dots that don't exist" applies. Edited July 15, 2014 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) More like, "I wonder what percentage of Fusion shoppers even know/knew/ cared that a 6 speed manual existed." America is not Europe, buyers overwhelmingly want automatics... and not manuals or DSGs. Edited July 15, 2014 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 More like, "I wonder what percentage of Fusion shoppers even know/knew/ cared that a 6 speed manual existed." America is not Europe, buyers overwhelmingly want automatics... and not manuals or DSGs. Agreed. I think for the vast majority it does not even enter their mind about a choice between the two. They have most likely grown up with each parent always driving an auto and that is what they know. If more people were exposed to driving a stick maybe the % would come up a few points. Pipe dream I know. Again Sad. My son learned to drive a stick when he got his permit, drives one now and probably will purchase his next car as one. My younger son also wants to learn when he gets his permit. If I drove an auto it probably would not even be on their radar. My son took his driver test on his stick and even the driving instructor (mandated in N.J.- don't even get me started on this bull****) tried to talk him out of it. He said "I wouldn't even take my test on one" REALLY! And your teaching my son how to drive? Well not really, my wife and I did that. He probably couldn't even drive one LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My son took his driver test on his stick and even the driving instructor (mandated in N.J.- don't even get me started on this bull****) tried to talk him out of it. He said "I wouldn't even take my test on one" REALLY! And your teaching my son how to drive? Well not really, my wife and I did that. He probably couldn't even drive one LOL. Since when did they mandate driving instructors in Jersey? Some of my best memories are driving around in Point Pleasant and Seaside with my dad in the late winter/early spring learning how to drive his then mine 1986 Escort GT with a stick...I choked the first time I took the test (totally forgot to use my blinker for everything) but passed it with flying colors second time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Not sure, my son got his permit three years ago, so before that. My wife and I still took him around but to take your test you have to show proof you took lessons from an approved driving instructor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Not sure, my son got his permit three years ago, so before that. My wife and I still took him around but to take your test you have to show proof you took lessons from an approved driving instructor. Must be something with the graduated driving licenses they implemented about 10 years ago...it makes some sense, but I got my drivers license about 21 yrs ago LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 In GA it's optional. You need 40 hours of instruction but it can be done by the parents. You just have to keep a log and sign an affidavit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I can see the logic since most people can't drive we don't want them teaching their kids. On the other hand with the number of kids in my sons grade who have gotten into accidents I don't see that it has helped that much, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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