blwnsmoke Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/gm-hires-infiniti-chief-runs-cadillac-brand-151005583--finance.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 This is the guy who made Lincoln's MkNaming seem logical by rolling out Infinitis Q branding, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) de Nysschen's the guy who put Audi on the map (19 years). He's only been at Infiniti two years. I believe the Q branding preceded him. Edited July 12, 2014 by mackinaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 de Nysschen's the guy who put Audi on the map (19 years). He's only been at Infiniti two years. I believe the Q branding preceded him. I thought he was the guy that came up with the Q naming scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I thought he was the guy that came up with the Q naming scheme Yes, from what I've read he was. Make way for the QATS, and QXCalade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Wasn't the Q in reference to Quattro? Edited July 12, 2014 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Wasn't the Q in reference to Quattro? I assumed it was a reference to the original Infiniti flagship, the Q45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Wasn't the Q in reference to Quattro? Quattro is Audi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 A couple points made regarding a recipe for fixing Cadillac have already been put in place by Ford in its Lincoln subsidiary. Lincoln is a couple years ahead of Cadillac based on this set of principles. "Cadillac dealers on Friday said the brand needs two things to succeed: Consistency of leadership and the opportunity to function as a stand-alone entity within GM. Howard Drake, owner of Casa de Cadillac in Sherman Oaks, California, and a member of Cadillac's national dealer council, said the brand needs "its own team, its own resources, its own profit and loss accountability."" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Oh heavens, the last thing Cadillac needs (probably) is its own P&L. If GM execs knew the true state of Caddy, they might blanch, faint, or come down with a fit of the vapors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'm not sure incurring a loss would bother GM? I have always been under the impression that the only metric GM is concerned about is the monthly sales table. The problem with Cadillac is BMW and Mercedes outsell the brand, hence, bigger discounts should take care of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) So the solution to not making profit is to lose even more? Hiding the brand's true fiscal performance leads to poor business decisions. At some point Cadillac has to add profits or there is no (rational) point in keeping them. In Mulally's first meeting the division heads shared redacted financial results. They said they never shared that info with each other. He reminded them they all work for Ford (and him) and that next week they better show up with real numbers and without the book of hundreds of power points and spreadsheets. He also questioned why they would continue to sell vehicles that lose money. Barra needs to ask the same questions. Edited July 13, 2014 by akirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) So the solution to not making profit is to lose even more? Hiding the brand's true fiscal performance leads to poor business decisions. At some point Cadillac has to add profits or there is no (rational) point in keeping them. Oops, sorry my friend, I did it to you again. I was simply being sarcastic. Truth is GM angers me and has done so for as long as I can recall. They MUST be #1 all the time or else the world is entirely out of syncronization. In summary, I was illustrating the GM perspective on what it takes to make a company successful. (edited for better readability) Edited July 13, 2014 by AlRozzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I assumed it was a reference to the original Infiniti flagship, the Q45. In the past year, ALL of their models have been renamed Q-something: Q50, Q60, Q70, QX50, QX60, QX70, QX80. Don't ask me to tell you which is which, cuz I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The Q50 was the G; the Q60 was the M, what's the Q70 then? I don't think they had 3 sedans did they? The QX50 was the EX, the QX70 was the FX, and the QX80 was the QX56. Not sure what the QX60 was. You're right. Have no idea which is which lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 In the past year, ALL of their models have been renamed Q-something: Q50, Q60, Q70, QX50, QX60, QX70, QX80. Don't ask me to tell you which is which, cuz I have no idea. Yes, I know that, see the second post in this thread. Why start each model with Q? Why not G, or M, or Mk? My assumption is Q harkens back to the Q45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The Q50 was the G; the Q60 was the M, what's the Q70 then? I don't think they had 3 sedans did they? The QX50 was the EX, the QX70 was the FX, and the QX80 was the QX56. Not sure what the QX60 was. You're right. Have no idea which is which lol The Q50 was the G; the Q60 was the G coupe, the Q70 is the M. Only 2 sedans at the moment. I doubt a third is on the way soon. The suv/cuv lineup is QX50 was the EX, QX60 was the JX, QX70 was the FX. QX80 was the QX56/ Nissan Patrol based truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The Q50 was the G; the Q60 was the M, what's the Q70 then? I don't think they had 3 sedans did they? The QX50 was the EX, the QX70 was the FX, and the QX80 was the QX56. Not sure what the QX60 was. You're right. Have no idea which is which lol I'd assume the Q70 is the new large sedan. But yeesh, talk about solving a problem that didn't exist. Not to mention really pissing off all the members of the National G Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The Q50 was the G; the Q60 was the G coupe, the Q70 is the M. Only 2 sedans at the moment. I doubt a third is on the way soon. The suv/cuv lineup is QX50 was the EX, QX60 was the JX, QX70 was the FX. QX80 was the QX56/ Nissan Patrol based truck. Right! I forgot about the G coupe and JX. Thanks for clarifying that (I was too lazy to look it up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 ...Don't ask me to tell you which is which, cuz I have no idea. ...You're right. Have no idea which is which lol having seen them... I don't care& I liked early M's so much it was upsetting... Oh heavens, the last thing Cadillac needs (probably) is its own P&L. If GM execs knew the true state of Caddy, they might blanch, faint, or come down with a fit of the vapors.if vapors can be fatal, that'd be nice silver lining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 According to Infiniti, they didn't want to continue the old naming schemes with engine displacements and they already owned the rights to Qnn and QXnn so that's what they decided to use. And people think Lincolns MK scheme was confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 And people think Lincolns MK scheme was confusing. Oh, it still is, and I still have my fingers crossed they change it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) ^ & ^^ otoh if they rename the MKS's replacement (MKT too) that'd leave MKZ = longest remaining "MK-series" MKX = middle length MKC = smallest with room for a whitespace vehicle & Letter between the X & C... Edited July 14, 2014 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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