statts Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) any contract news/rumors anything? Edited July 31, 2015 by statts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Yes lots of news, biggest news is, the UAW supports the company and not the employee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGER66 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 My dues have went up and my benefits and pay have went down. If we don't get a great contract this time it will be half of my career at ford that I payed the UAW to bargain for me and they failed. Come on UAW EARN those dues!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Well Michigan is right to work state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpercable Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Yep we got the right to work for whatever they come back with like it or not or quit and get another job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Yep we got the right to work for whatever they come back with like it or not or quit and get another job. You got it! If a lot of people would quit they could move product to Mexico without the job loss. They laid 2nd Tier off at MAP so there would be people on layoff to give them a reason to offer a buyout to 1st Tier at contract! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Its being "negotiated" by these guys...... ( Its likely already decided and all the guys in the black shirts will return and try to sell it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6KVq22SbG4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-bert Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 you we diont need no union, right cal ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 What is a union? Please don't answer just keep paying the dues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 What is a union? Please don't answer just keep paying the dues uh obviously there is no need for a union, AKA RIGHT TO WORK IN MICH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 uh obviously there is no need for a union, AKA RIGHT TO WORK IN MICH. No no just pay dues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 No no just pay dues obviously, your not union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 obviously, your not union Obviously the Union Reps are not union either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) Obviously the Union Reps are not union obviously they are company! your fricken BRIGHT, and maybe when u grow up a bit, you will be BIGcountry. LMAO Edited August 6, 2015 by CaptObvious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 obviously they are company! your fricken BRIGHT, and maybe when u grow up a bit, you will be BIGcountry. LMAO I hope to be just like Bigcountry one day, he is my hero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 obviously you have very small goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Littlecountry is that your 'mean face'?Because if you aint willing to STRIKE you aint gonna get much.Suprised you would make such an anti-union,anti-company statement you are usually so compliant.Vote YES to strike authorization and then NO to the contract if it aint what you want!The company negotiates with its wallet.The company is not your friend.The union wants dues paying members.The only person who cares about you is you the guy actually working the job!ITS YOUR CONTRACT,Hasta la Vista,amigo! Edited August 7, 2015 by Fatso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeWelder Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 uh obviously there is no need for a union, AKA RIGHT TO WORK IN MICH. I believe the "Right to Work" laws do not apply to workers that are under contract. The contractual language must be adhered to and trumps the right to work laws. If there is no contract between worker and company, then the company can do whatever they want. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Littlecountry is that your 'mean face'?Because if you aint willing to STRIKE you aint gonna get much.Suprised you would make such an anti-union,anti-company statement you are usually so compliant.Vote YES to strike authorization and then NO to the contract if it aint what you want!The company negotiates with its wallet.The company is not your friend.The union wants dues paying members.The only person who cares about you is you the guy actually working the job!ITS YOUR CONTRACT,Hasta la Vista,amigo! There you go with that Strike talk again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I believe the "Right to Work" laws do not apply to workers that are under contract. The contractual language must be adhered to and trumps the right to work laws. If there is no contract between worker and company, then the company can do whatever they want. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so.You're half right. However, once any contract that was in effect when the RTW law took effect expires, members can then opt to leave and any future new hires can opt to not join the union 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphil Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Your right fuzzymoomoo! Rouge Welder you're going to have to own it. Make sure you fact check before you post bad information there are a lot of auto workers that think everything on the Internet is true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERDEMOCRAT Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I know this stuff is true on here. Cause I heard from my grandma's kitty best friends {Lil burdie} that this stuff is more truth then the Bible and history. So ya I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeWelder Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Your right fuzzymoomoo! Rouge Welder you're going to have to own it. Make sure you fact check before you post bad information there are a lot of auto workers that think everything on the Internet is true My info was not bad and fuzzy was correct also. It is true that after our current contract expires, we cannot be forced to pay union dues. And the union must represent those who choose not to join our union. But that is where it ends. After we pass the new contract, you can still refuse to join the union while still enjoying the representation they provide, but management must comply with the contractual language in place. With no contract in place, employers can fire you for any reason(i.e. missing one day, don't like you, etc.). Safety standards and ergonomics go out the window with no contract. Seniority dates are ignored. Work schedules can be forced(12hr/6 days), compensation/benefits can change, vacation/personal time reduced, etc., etc., etc.. Whatever the employer wants to do to you goes. Now, with a contract in place, you cannot be forced to pay dues to work in a union shop, but all other contractual agreements must be followed(i.e. safety, ergonomics, seniority, work schedules, compensation, etc.). I also stated in my post that I could be wrong but didn't think so. I stand by my original post, I just did not go into great detail to explain myself. I agree totally that our union does not have the weight they once had but without them, and without a contract that defines work rules, we would NOT be at the top of the labor force ladder. Eventually our pay/benefits would be reduced and we would end up like any other non union shop where management can abuse the workforce for greater profits. And if you don't like it, quit......if you say you don't like it, you will be fired. Edited August 10, 2015 by RougeWelder 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 No signing bonus unless your a member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 No signing bonus unless your a member ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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