T-bird Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-march-u-auto-sales-133746775.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03 LS Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Ford beat GM in March, 254,711 to 252,128. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 73,000 F-Series. F-Series outsold the entire Ford car lineup, or the entire Ford utility lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Aluminum "beer can" trucks will never sell. :rolleyes: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I bet GMI is spinning so fast it's about to take flight........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Hopefully translates into good dividends on my Ford stock so I can buy more Ford stock LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I bet GMI is spinning so fast it's about to take flight........ Oh no, Ford is 36% fleet...real people aren't buying Fords. I'm just repeating what they said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm guessing that the high fleet numbers and high F-Series numbers are correlated--with Ford finally having enough production online to start filling fleet orders for the new F150. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm guessing that the high fleet numbers and high F-Series numbers are correlated--with Ford finally having enough production online to start filling fleet orders for the new F150. Maybe Dean can finally get his regular cab work truck he ordered January 2015.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Ford beat GM in March, 254,711 to 252,128. I was wondering why GM didn't mention total delivery in the memo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Oh no, Ford is 36% fleet...real people aren't buying Fords. I'm just repeating what they said GM exits van business just as fleet buyers decide to buy a lot of vans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm guessing that the high fleet numbers and high F-Series numbers are correlated--with Ford finally having enough production online to start filling fleet orders for the new F150. See this: http://www.autonews.com/article/20160401/RETAIL01/304019981/1221 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Does anybody know how Ford's Retail sales were in all of 2015? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 This better not be an April Fools day joke.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2016/04/01/march-2016-sales.html "Posts best March US sales in 10 years, best 1/4 results since 2006" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 The new Transit proved the naysayers wrong again. Predicted to flop since "workers will only buy BOF vehicles" and GM was supposed to clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Van sales were the best in 38 years. Transit sales - 57% increase in Q1. F Series sales improved in California by 13% and Florida by 15 %. Lincoln's ATP increased by $2,100 last month and that's with increased total sales Cadillac's ATP increased by $1700 last month with decreased total sales.. Mark LaNeve also mentioned Edge sales 14,005, with 38% of them being high series Titanium.... While Fleet sales were 37% that is broken up as Commercial 14% Govt 6% Daily rental 17% In spite of that Ford brand ATP had a $1600 increase versus a year ago.... and Lincoln had a $2100 increase compared to a year ago.($700 increase sequentially over February) " LaNeve advises that Ford is Front Ending" its fleet sales in the first half of the year and that those Fleet percentages will stabilize with fewer sales in Q3 and Q4. Ford maximizes Q1 and Q2 sales with restricted production by building out Inventory through the Winter months and filling that heavier mix of fleet sales to bring down inventory while leaving them model year switches until after that happens. By dong that, Ford avoids the need for having overflow plants....very clever. Explorer's sales are strong with millennials, F Truck - best March performance in 10 years... Edited April 1, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 The circle jerk among Ford fans on the GM site (GMinside...) is crazy because Ford outsold GM for one month. Congrats to Ford for a solid month anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Wow, that's allot of Daily Rentals. Hope those are Transit fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 The circle jerk among Ford fans on the GM site (GMinside...) is crazy because Ford outsold GM for one month. Congrats to Ford for a solid month anyways. It's not a circle jerk, just turning the knife that is GMI hardcore' key metric- Sales 39% increase in fleet sales with an accompanying $1,600 increase in ATP GM increases ATP by cutting fleet sales while Ford increases fleet sales and ATP at the same time That is what is doing in the GMI hardcore heads, how can Ford what GM either can't or won't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) The circle jerk among Ford fans on the GM site (GMinside...) is crazy because Ford outsold GM for one month. Congrats to Ford for a solid month anyways.It's not a circle jerk, just turning the knife that is GMI hardcore's key metric- Sales39% increase in fleet sales with an accompanying $1,600 increase in ATP GM increases ATP by cutting fleet sales while Ford increases fleet sales and ATP at the same time That is what is doing in the GMI hardcore heads, how can Ford what GM either can't or won't? I think GM is also doing a great job but understand that posting environment, Most there think it's a GM fan site and dive bomb any Ford / Lincoln thread. Some of us restore the balance...... Edited April 2, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Wow, that's allot of Daily Rentals. Hope those are Transit fans. And Ford"s ATP went up $1,600 at the same time fleet sales went up.LaNeve said that Ford expects daily rentals will drop back to 11% by the end of the year. Edited April 2, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) It's not a circle jerk, just turning the knife that is GMI hardcore's key metric- Sales 39% increase in fleet sales with an accompanying $1,600 increase in ATP GM increases ATP by cutting fleet sales while Ford increases fleet sales and ATP at the same time That is what is doing in the GMI hardcore heads, how can Ford what GM either can't or won't? I think GM is also doing a great job but understand that posting environment, Most there think it's a GM fan site and dive bomb any Ford / Lincoln thread. Some of us restore the balance...... Core example is this post but for the GM site Its a bunch of Ford invaders on a GM site telling all how great Ford is and ATPs and ROIs and kill less bunnies, etc. You don't see FCA, Euros or Asia inc on there just constantly seeing "Ford is God" garbage there . The mods there need to shut it down or kick people off its GMinsidenews not jackoffFordnews. Edited April 2, 2016 by Fgts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 The mods there need to shut it down Speaking of mods, I'm getting tired of you wasting space on this forum with complaints about content on other websites. Consider yourself warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) And Ford"s ATP went up $1,600 at the same time fleet sales went up. LaNeve said that Ford expects daily rentals will drop back to 11% by the end of the year. The ATPs were going up YTD by around $2,700 so that's actually falling back down. So either fleeting ate into that gain or F-150 is selling less expensive models. Historically Ford has been a few grand under GM's ATPs but had been at parity until recently. Commercial fleeting is quite a bit smaller than I expected with Transit and F-150 around. With very little going on in Ford's car business over the next 2 years and capacity reduction for Fusion, we can probably expect significant declines in their car business unless it's propped up with daily rentals over the next 2 years. They don't have much capacity left for their Utilities so it might be hard to offset those car declines. All of that should be easily negated by F-Series and the new SuperDuty in the interim as they build toward a factory reorg and new models. It's looking like a flat year for Ford overall in terms of sales, but they will continue to shift more of their sales to more profitable F-Series and Midsize Utilities. It's good to see Lincoln sales up, but it's still under 10K for the entire brand and only marginally higher for such low volume. MKX sales are back to their pre-launch levels, the growth is stilted due to the transition months (same with Edge). MKC appears to have topped out quite a bit lower than I expected. Edited April 2, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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