BorinOldborg Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I read about new Ranger. https://carsoid.com/2017-ford-ranger-release-date/ Is it true or just rumor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Thanks for the Link MKII, I Found this passage very interesting: Ka+ at 3930mm is 154.7" - that up from 142.5" and still about 6" shorter than the present Fiesta. Fiesta mules also suggest that the wheelbase of the next gen is also growing to improve rear leg room. I like the sound of this as I think those cars will be better aligned in bot only Europe but global markets too And this "Ford will restyle the B-Max with SUV/crossover styling, according to sources. The model will become more of a “softroader” a front-wheel-drive crossover for urban lifestyles, positioned between the EcoSport and Kuga" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I read about new Ranger. https://carsoid.com/2017-ford-ranger-release-date/ Is it true or just rumor? For the rest of the world, yeah. MAP isn't scheduled to start production for North America until spring of 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 And this "Ford will restyle the B-Max with SUV/crossover styling, according to sources. The model will become more of a softroader a front-wheel-drive crossover for urban lifestyles, positioned between the EcoSport and Kuga" So a Kia Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So a Kia Soul And built on a "short C" platform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Fiesta 8th gen debuts early next year? Coming at least coming sooner than expected. Edited July 15, 2016 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 And this "Ford will restyle the B-Max with SUV/crossover styling, according to sources. The model will become more of a “softroader” a front-wheel-drive crossover for urban lifestyles, positioned between the EcoSport and Kuga" Aha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The next Ka+ is a 5 door, does this mean no more 3 door hatches overseas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Fiesta is still available as a 3 door, for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky2 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Please god, don't put in the useless console mounted shifter! Just put in a column shifter, it's not a f*cking Ford GT, Ford, so stop pretending it is and let the console actually have use for drinks, normal car shit, etc., rather than all that space being taken up by a "sporty" needless automatic shifter. F*ck...I know they're going to do it anyways, and it'll be another vehicle needlessly ruined for people who actually spend more than 10 minutes in their vehicle at any one time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 And while we're at it - bring back bench seats! I'm sure there are manufacturing advantages to a central shifter when you're building both RHD and LHD vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 And while we're at it - bring back bench seats! I'm sure there are manufacturing advantages to a central shifter when you're building both RHD and LHD vehicles. And cars with manual transmissions...no need for a different console or column design based on transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Looks like mind shift is going on inside Ford , these smaller cars are changing from their previous roles of basc transport to better appointed downsizer vehicles where buyers moving from larger models expect to find similar features and options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 mind shift Well that would eliminate the physical shifter altogether! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Well that would eliminate the physical shifter altogether! Given the preponderance of manual transmission sales in Europe and ROW, you're probably going to get stuck with what someone else wants in another market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 And built on a "short C" platform is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky2 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 And while we're at it - bring back bench seats! I'm sure there are manufacturing advantages to a central shifter when you're building both RHD and LHD vehicles. There probably are, I just wish they wouldn't outweigh the years of car ownership the buyer will be stick with a really sub-optimal configuration. We have a Ford Flex: It doesn't need a console shifter, it is a massive waste of needless space. Two cell phones, chargers, change, food, medical shit, etc. etc. etc. There are a thousand more worthwhile things we, and everyone else who owns a Flex, will want to put in the open air console portion that can't, that have to be less usefully jammed somewhere else, because of a shifter to be "sporty". And cars with manual transmissions...no need for a different console or column design based on transmission. Yes, I can see that, for cars with actual manual transmissions. Flex, does SHO even have one? (that'd make Taurus not needing one), F-150, Edge, Expedition...probably many others. Looks like mind shift is going on inside Ford , these smaller cars are changing from their previous roles of basc transport to better appointed downsizer vehicles where buyers moving from larger models expect to find similar features and options. Well that would eliminate the physical shifter altogether! LOL, mind shift would be great! Lincoln needs that... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 There probably are, I just wish they wouldn't outweigh the years of car ownership the buyer will be stick with a really sub-optimal configuration. We have a Ford Flex: It doesn't need a console shifter, it is a massive waste of needless space. Two cell phones, chargers, change, food, medical shit, etc. etc. etc. There are a thousand more worthwhile things we, and everyone else who owns a Flex, will want to put in the open air console portion that can't, that have to be less usefully jammed somewhere else, because of a shifter to be "sporty". Yes, I can see that, for cars with actual manual transmissions. Flex, does SHO even have one? (that'd make Taurus not needing one), F-150, Edge, Expedition...probably many others. LOL, mind shift would be great! Lincoln needs that... :D But Lincoln does have the push button shifter which frees up the space you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I find the lack of me propping up my hand (on a shifter), ends up me holding my phone instead... and texting, and changing my music from my cloud, and using Waze, looking at the weather clouds on Weatherbug... Etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I find the lack of me propping up my hand (on a shifter), ends up me holding my phone instead... and texting, and changing my music from my cloud, and using Waze, looking at the weather clouds on Weatherbug... Etc... Maybe you need to up your ADHD meds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky2 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I find the lack of me propping up my hand (on a shifter), ends up me holding my phone instead... and texting, and changing my music from my cloud, and using Waze, looking at the weather clouds on Weatherbug... Etc... Yeah, this is dangerous haha, but I'll admit I do it to. In the Telecomm industry, we are working on things to mitigate this (can't say more really). But Lincoln does have the push button shifter which frees up the space you want. If the Continental has those and doesn't have the damn cockpit design where my right leg is plastered up against some needless piece of plastic, I might end up getting one. I have the luxury of waiting a few years if I need to though, so hopefully Ford wises up and actually has people who call the shots use the vehicles for more than 15 minutes a drive so they can quash these poor design decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I like the console shifter, my hand rests perfectly there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I thought I would miss the shifter but I don't miss it a bit. The taller center console helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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