silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170103005787/en/Ford-Adding-Electrified-F-150-Mustang-Transit-2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Official Ford press release on the subject https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia-mobile/fna/us/en/news/2017/01/03/ford-adding-electrified-f-150-mustang-transit-by-2020.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia-mobile/fna/us/en/news/2017/01/03/ford-adding-electrified-f-150-mustang-transit-by-2020.html Ford confirms seven of 13 new global electrified vehicles coming in the next five years, including F-150 Hybrid, Mustang Hybrid and Transit Custom plug-in hybrid Ford to launch fully electric SUV with an estimated range of at least 300 miles and two new electrified police vehicles The automaker is investing $700 million and adding 700 direct new jobs in Flat Rock (Michigan) Assembly Plant to create a factory capable of producing high-tech electrified and autonomous vehicles – plus the iconic Ford Mustang and Lincoln Continental Ford is piloting wireless technology that makes recharging an electric vehicle as easy as pulling into a parking spot; in addition, the company is testing EV prototypes this year in Europe, New York and other large U.S. cities Ford is canceling plans for a new $1.6 billion plant in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, and investing $700 million in the Flat Rock, Michigan, plant’s expansion; Ford will build its next-generation Focus at an existing plant in Hermosillo, Mexico, to improve company profitability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) Fully electric small utility is most like the Model E we've been waiting for, and Fields talked about the previous Escape hybrid so it seems likely this is related to the new Escape. I now wonder what the pursuit-rated hybrid vehicles are, Explorer and Taurus? None of this really solves Ford's production constraints on utilities however which is worrisome. This must have been a VERY rushed announcement, I bet they got a wiff of something that GM is announcing in Detroit. Even the press release is full of typos. Edited January 3, 2017 by BORG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thats crazy with the Focus...I wonder if they'll spin up Fusion production again in Flat Rock? I also wonder if its going to make retooling the existing plant for the Ranger/Bronco get completed quicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thats crazy with the Focus...I wonder if they'll spin up Fusion production again in Flat Rock? I also wonder if its going to make retooling the existing plant for the Ranger/Bronco get completed quicker? I've asked my launch team friends at FRAP about that and they haven't been told anything about it, so I guess that's still a possibility. I think Ford sees the sedan market shrinking more in the next few years so they will be able to fit both cars at HMO. Remember, MKZ is tentatively moving to FRAP by the end of the decade, and this electrification investment paves the way for that. As far as MAP is concerned, I'll investigate when I get back to work tonight but to my knowledge as I sit here right now, nothing has changed as far as retooling time is concerned. AFAIK, the plant layout for the Ranger is still in its first draft and a LOT of decisions need to be made still. I doubt any of this speeds any of that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thats crazy with the Focus...I wonder if they'll spin up Fusion production again in Flat Rock? I also wonder if its going to make retooling the existing plant for the Ranger/Bronco get completed quicker? They still need the new Focus to produce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) I still get the sense that nothing is set in stone at MAP and neither is Ranger/Bronco. It's one of the reasons Ford has never confirmed the products going into that plant despite keeping virtually no secrets on everything else. They just lost a HUGE chunk of their expanded production capacity by closing Mexico which leads me to believe they are going to need to move some of that planned production back to the US. Edited January 3, 2017 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I still get the sense that nothing is set in stone at MAP and neither is Ranger/Bronco. They just lost a HUGE chunk of their expanded production capacity by closing Mexico which leads me to believe they are going to need to move some of that planned production back to the US. Haven't heard word one about the Bronco yet, but as I said earlier the plant layout for the Ranger is still in the early draft phases and there's still a lot that needs to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Driverless cars will still be too expensive for average buyers. More likely will be corporate owned for Uber-type ride sharing. And imagine all the constant software updates, etc, that will have these cars having to sit awhile. Will be quite some time before Mr and Mrs Average will be able to get 'driven' to work and they can take a nap in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I didn't think Ford was capable of a 300 mile range electric vehicle - that can only be accomplished by GM and Tesla. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Cancelling MEX plant mean that maybe even there is too much cost to build smaller cars? Will there be imported Fiestas and Focuses from wherever is cheaper? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 I didn't think Ford was capable of a 300 mile range electric vehicle - that can only be accomplished by GM and Tesla. And they are smart about it...they are making it one of the hottest market sellers...a Small SUV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Cancelling MEX plant mean that maybe even there is too much cost to build smaller cars? Will there be imported Fiestas and Focuses from wherever is cheaper? Did you not read the release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Cancelling MEX plant mean that maybe even there is too much cost to build smaller cars? Will there be imported Fiestas and Focuses from wherever is cheaper? Most likely market trends...I think Ford is looking leaner times the next couple years and doesn't want to have excess capacity, which is smart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) There is still the industry report that indicates Fiesta is being dropped and replaced by something else, which might be the EcoSport. Although it's my understanding that almost all of these changes have happened in the last 3 months and is part of a company wide cost cutting strategy, that includes the decision to import EcoSport. I know quite a few programs were also on the cutting block but I'm not privy to what new vehicles were being canceled so that is why I think Ranger and Bronco may be in limbo with these last minute changes. Edited January 3, 2017 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Nobody's even mentioning the hybrid F150. Presume it will share the drivetrain with Mustang. I would presume we would also see a hybrid Ranger. Would the hybrid F150 be a lightweight 1/4 ton version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 There is still the industry report that indicates Fiesta is being dropped and replaced by something else, which might be the EcoSport. Where? The Fiesta has its own plant in Mexico at the moment and there hasn't been any mention of it being changed...yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) And they are smart about it...they are making it one of the hottest market sellers...a Small SUV. You mean like the Bolt? Edited January 3, 2017 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Wonder if they plan[ned] to show something at CES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) You mean like the Bolt? The Bolt is nothing more then a glorified people mover it doesn't look like CUV or SUV Bolt Vs Equinox Edited January 3, 2017 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Bolt and I3, yes, but not Leaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Nobody's even mentioning the hybrid F150. Presume it will share the drivetrain with Mustang. I would presume we would also see a hybrid Ranger. Would the hybrid F150 be a lightweight 1/4 ton version? I doubt it will be a 1/4 ton version because he did mention that it will have added capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) The Bolt is nothing more then a glorified people mover it doesn't look like CUV or SUV Ford is calling it a "Utility", that's all. You are filling in the rest yourself per the usual. Edited January 3, 2017 by BORG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 There is still the industry report that indicates Fiesta is being dropped and replaced by something else, which might be the EcoSport. Although it's my understanding that almost all of these changes have happened in the last 3 months and is part of a company wide cost cutting strategy, that includes the decision to import EcoSport. What if Fusion/MkZ went to The Fiesta plant (I can never spell it right) and Focus/Ecosport/Fiesta went to Hermosillo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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