coupe3w Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/06/28/ford-recalls-big-vans-cracked-coupling-can-cause-power-loss.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 old news, its just now Ford is acting...had a gentleman that owns a livery service that bought 7 vans, they ALL needed replacing within 6 months ( he racks up serious mileage )....he does all his own servicing and noticed they were all cracking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 old news, its just now Ford is acting...had a gentleman that owns a livery service that bought 7 vans, they ALL needed replacing within 6 months ( he racks up serious mileage )....he does all his own servicing and noticed they were all cracking.... Old news? Ford just posted the Delivery Hold notice, etc. to dealers yesterday! What's just typical is that Ford is telling us that the parts won't be available until at least August. We have 14 sold units that we now can't deliver and another 30 on the way. All of them will end up on floorplan for months at our expense as Ford never compensates dealers on these recall matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinto'77 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) ? Edited June 28, 2017 by Pinto'77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Ice -capades...old news to us as we replaced the clients cracked parts over a year ago and informed Ford of a potential problem....really think they should utilize companies such as his as test beds due to the mileage he puts on cars...he had million mile Aerostars at one stage.....all Blue...hes been a client since 1986...he had issues with them they finally fessed too, and remember the Windstars?...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Ford said they will replace the cracked pieces every 30K miles for free until a permanent fix is in place. But this shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's not like rocket science to design a damn driveshaft coupling, they've been making them for years. I'm sorry there is no excuse for this, unless the vendor didn't do something Ford asked for in the design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Ford said they will replace the cracked pieces every 30K miles for free until a permanent fix is in place. But this shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's not like rocket science to design a damn driveshaft coupling, they've been making them for years. I'm sorry there is no excuse for this, unless the vendor didn't do something Ford asked for in the design. that's probably the case. I've been told that's the root of the door latch debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? Why don't you comprehend what I wrote. And you think that it is costing Ford $142 million is okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Why don't you comprehend what I wrote. And you think that it is costing Ford $142 million is okay? Don't feed the troll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 It was common (maybe it still is) for suppliers to deviate from Ford's requirements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 It was common (maybe it still is) for suppliers to deviate from Ford's requirements. For sure it is still necessary, however if it's needed the onus is on the supplier to communicate with Ford to make sure everything is still A-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Don't feed the troll Troll? Only a troll if bad news is posted? I see how you are. If this was a feel good story about Ford would you still consider it trolling? No of course not. Grow up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) Yikes!! Kinda reminds me of the service intervals on the "Twin Traction" front ends on 80's-90's Ford 4X4 pickup trucks. The company is still developing a permanent fix, and until that happens, drivers should have the couplings replaced every 30,000 miles. Edited June 29, 2017 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Troll? Only a troll if bad news is posted? I see how you are. If this was a feel good story about Ford would you still consider it trolling? No of course not. Grow up! You can't be serious..... that guy is impersonating me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) The Ford warranty system moves slow ! If you are old enough you will remember the first version of the Thick Film Ignition (TFI) module. The first version (on the 1.6L Escort IIRC, but it quickly expanded to many engines/vehicles) had a "life expectancy" of about 1-2 years. By the time it got back to engineering (I work down the hall from those guys) the "repairs per 100" were >100 ! Yep, some customers had more than one failure under warranty ! It was so bad that engineers from Electronics Division would drove back and forth to work with spares in their personal car. If the saw a newer Ford on the side of the road, they would stop, assess the symptoms and swap the module o the side of the road ! Ford would even pay for replacement parts cost of NON-Ford TFI modules !! The TFI went through several generations of re-design. Interesting fact was that it was not until a few years after this all started that anyone checked the temperature of the mounting location (side of the distributor) only to find on certain vehicle it routinely exceeded the design spec. After much arguing, some vehicles started to use a remote mount in a thick aluminum heat sink. Edited June 29, 2017 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Troll? Only a troll if bad news is posted? I see how you are. If this was a feel good story about Ford would you still consider it trolling? No of course not. Grow up! He was referring to the fake account that was created to impersonate him, not to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 It was common (maybe it still is) for suppliers to deviate from Ford's requirements. Amazing. How does Ford test for compliance, and what does Ford do about non compliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 He was referring to the fake account that was created to impersonate him, not to you. Oh I'm sorry to the real fuzzy. I didn't catch that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 To be honest I didn't notice it either. I've deleted the other account while we investigate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 You can't be serious..... that guy is impersonating me...... Looked more like he was impersonating Oddball to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss96racing Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Amazing. How does Ford test for compliance, and what does Ford do about non compliance? The OEM's create the test spec's but it is up to the supplier to do the component level testing and report the results. Then the OEM's do vehicle level testing. I have worked for a few suppliers and it is all the same, the spec's tend to be vague and a lot of the testing and results is left up to interpretation. With the help of computer analysis and simulations parts are built on the edge of being good without any extra room for variation. For non compliance the cost of the recall is pushed back onto the supplier. They have to replace all bad parts for free and pay for service costs to perform the recalls. It is in the best interest of the supplier to be honest with the testing but costs drive a lot of decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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