J-150 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Lincolnized Everest as the 3rd vehicle on T6 at MAP. RWD would make it competitive against the German/UK SUVs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) My money is on MKX refresh....Check out the the shape of the greenhouse upper window through the sheet and the wheel wells (compared to the MKX image above). Rear body line seems to be in the same spot too. Edited November 28, 2017 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I believe Anthony has got it. That hood just looks extremely long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 The 2019 Lincoln Nautilus (aka MKX). Autoblog gallery: https://www.autoblog.com/photos/2019-lincoln-nautilus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Love that name. Refresh looks good. That grille really takes to the existing vehicles well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Edited topic title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor1234 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) I'll be in the market next summer for a replacement to my '16 X. To be honest, I was hoping for more improvements to the interior (more wood!) than new stalks, frameless rearview and the digital cluster. Biggest letdown (not confirmed of course!) is that the rear badging doesn't say 3.0T. Edit.. I might be wrong about the rear view. No HUD either it seems. But it does look like both front and rear cams get washers - something that's been sorely needed for a while now. What is the button on the left side of the steering wheel denoting a little steering wheel between two lines? Edited November 28, 2017 by Professor1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 The 2019 Lincoln Nautilus (aka MKX). Autoblog gallery: https://www.autoblog.com/photos/2019-lincoln-nautilus/ it got yanked...WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 it got yanked...WTF I bet it wasn't supposed to be live yet. I found it through a search for 2019 Lincoln Nautilus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Slightly disappointed that its not the Aviator, but I think we'll have a good chance of seeing that in at the NYIAS in April of next year. Love the name, and I guess the MKC and MKZ are next. Mariner sounds alright for the MKC...though I wonder if they'll do something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 This one still works! http://fordauthority.com/2017/11/2019-lincoln-nautilus-leaks-with-new-face-ditches-mk-nameplate/The Red looks gorgeous on it! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Agreed. The car looks amazing in red. You know, the small lights below the main headlights look really nice on the Nautilus. For some reason they never looked exactly right to me on the Navigator. I wonder if this styling feature will move to the sedans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Woohoo, looks like the air inlets in the bottom grill are centered and even...small miracles... Edited November 28, 2017 by ANTAUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Why rename a refresh? Chrysler did that with the Sebring/200 and people saw right through that.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Why rename a refresh? Chrysler did that with the Sebring/200 and people saw right through that.... Well, they saw through it and bought it in much greater numbers. You make a car better looking, it may sell more...regardless of the name. In the case of the Sebring / 200, it worked. I can see it working with the Nautlilus. Edited November 28, 2017 by Anthony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Why rename a refresh? Chrysler did that with the Sebring/200 and people saw right through that.... Why not? its just marketing...FFS they stole the marketing speak for the MKT for it too! Its more of a branding effort then anything else..the MKC is still new or they aren't planning on changing the name. The MKX has sold decently for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 But the timing fits with what Lincoln has been doing the last several years. Show a "concept" (which is near production ready) 18 months to 2 years before launch, show the production models 6-12 months before production. Right. I agree with the timing. But what I've been saying for months now - and this launch of both the MKC and MKX at a single event proves it - is that we'll see both MKC and MKX launch here, with the Aviator concept debuting on its own at a later show (NAIAS perhaps). Slightly disappointed that its not the Aviator, but I think we'll have a good chance of seeing that in at the NYIAS in April of next year. Love the name, and I guess the MKC and MKZ are next. Mariner sounds alright for the MKC...though I wonder if they'll do something else. I think we'll see Aviator at its own show this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think we'll see Aviator at its own show this year. I think it will be Concept this year, showing it as a Hybrid/Plugin vehicle. Lincoln normally does NYIAS so might be there. The Aviator concept will probably show what Ford has planned for the the Explorer as well as CD6. Detroit will probably show the Ranger, Bronco concept and Edge update, I also could see the Electric SUV showing up to show that Ford is actually in the process of getting it to market -- even if it isn't going to be out for 2 years they need something to show the public they are in the electric game still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think it will be Concept this year, showing it as a Hybrid/Plugin vehicle. Lincoln normally does NYIAS so might be there. The Aviator concept will probably show what Ford has planned for the the Explorer as well as CD6. Detroit will probably show the Ranger, Bronco concept and Edge update, I also could see the Electric SUV showing up to show that Ford is actually in the process of getting it to market -- even if it isn't going to be out for 2 years they need something to show the public they are in the electric game still. Yup, I meant an Aviator concept if that wasn't clear. That's a good point, Ford may want to keep NAIAS to themselves with those potential showings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 That's a good point, Ford may want to keep NAIAS to themselves with those potential showings. NAIAS might not be big enough for Ford to show off everything-I'd expect the following: Ranger Production model Mustang GT500/Mach1/whatever Focus (Though that depends on its EU release) Concepts: Bronco NG Explorer Model E or Gen Z CUV (smaller variant of the Escape) I'm sure I'm missing some stuff-If you think about it, Ford has alot of new product (thankfully) coming in the next 24 months or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 NAIAS might not be big enough for Ford to show off everything-I'd expect the following: Ranger Production model Mustang GT500/Mach1/whatever Focus (Though that depends on its EU release) Concepts: Bronco NG Explorer Model E or Gen Z CUV (smaller variant of the Escape) I'm sure I'm missing some stuff-If you think about it, Ford has alot of new product (thankfully) coming in the next 24 months or so Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the Ford side of it when I threw out NAIAS. My point was that this debut here (to me) proves that we'll see an Aviator concept this season.....otherwise, why waste your two debuts at a single show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) NAIAS might not be big enough for Ford to show off everything-I'd expect the following: Ranger Production model Mustang GT500/Mach1/whatever Focus (Though that depends on its EU release) Concepts: Bronco NG Explorer Model E or Gen Z CUV (smaller variant of the Escape) I'm sure I'm missing some stuff-If you think about it, Ford has alot of new product (thankfully) coming in the next 24 months or so Don't expect Focus at NAIAS, they won't show the US version until after the Euro debut which should be in Paris. I'm not so sure about the GT500/whatever they call it. Based on what little I know about it it's not quite ready for showtime yet. Edited November 28, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Don't expect Focus at NAIAS, they won't show the US version until after the Euro debut which should be in Paris. I'm not so sure about the GT500/whatever they call it. Based on what little I know about it it's not quite ready for showtime yet. Maybe the Bullitt to tide things over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 So the decision to not rename MKC seems really weird now in context. Did they let the Mariner trademark expire? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willwll313wll Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Maybe the Bullitt to tide things over? That's what i was hoping to see at the LA show. I'm ready to trade my 01' Bullitt in for it! At least if it doesn't cost $50k or something crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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