fuzzymoomoo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Or a manual transmission in the other models Actually, not as much as you would think. Nobody wants a manual outside of the performance models so there's not any extra value there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Actually, not as much as you would think. Nobody wants a manual outside of the performance models so there's not any extra value there. The issue being that it's a 5-speed and tied to the 2.0 DI, elsewhere you get the 1.5 EB and either a 6-speed manual or 6F auto. Those being available on (SE) Trend, (SEL) Sport and Titanium... the S (Ambiente) being axed a few years ago, maybe still in Asia. Edited December 3, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The issue being that it's a 5-speed and tied to the 2.0 DI, elsewhere you get the 1.5 EB and either a 6-speed manual or 6F auto. Those being available on (SE) Trend, (SEL) Sport and Titanium... the S (Ambiente) being axed a few years ago, maybe still in Asia. Perspective. There may still be decent demand for a three pedal manual in Australia but here in the land of the fat, Stupid and lazy not very many people want a three pedal manual. Even the Mustang sells more automatics anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Perspective. There may still be decent demand for a three pedal manual in Australia but here in the land of the fat, Stupid and lazy not very many people want a three pedal manual. Even the Mustang sells more automatics anymore. You're right of course, the two markets are substantially different but that little 1.5 EB is just so inviting... and conversely, I also concede that an auto Focus ST could have given Ford another sales weapon....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 ...or Automatic RS, GT350, etc. for a while I'd hoped they'd use Lincoln for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03 LS Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Correct, it's more like GM's Retail dumping where better trimmed vehicles aimed at retail buyers are then given generous incentives. When Ford is offering up to $5K off an $18K MSRP car than you know that something is really up. Rental fleet sales percentage across all Ford vehicles is around 10% so there ill be some sales bleed to fleet but not the blood nose some suspect, it's all heavily discounted retail sales so make of that what you will but when GM pushes retail sales using incentives, that somehow makes it far more acceptable... Speaking of GM retail dumping, over the weekend I saw GM ads that "employee pricing for everybody" is back for December! Wonder if this is a MI local thing, or a nationwide campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Speaking of GM retail dumping, over the weekend I saw GM ads that "employee pricing for everybody" is back for December! Wonder if this is a MI local thing, or a nationwide campaign. I saw it here, too. It might be a multi-regional thing, but I'd guess it's national. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 It's going to be very interesting to see what the December sales figures turn out to be. Compared to previous years when Ford made big incentive changes for the end of the month, this year they made minimal changes and appear to be relying on their 0% APR 72 month financing. From what I'm seeing, this is the worst December I've seen in years. Sales dropped early in the month and the end-of-month traffic and sales are horrible and the weather hasn't been a factor until the past few days... bitter cold but little snow. This December is like what January is usually like sales wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) It's going to be very interesting to see what the December sales figures turn out to be. Compared to previous years when Ford made big incentive changes for the end of the month, this year they made minimal changes and appear to be relying on their 0% APR 72 month financing. From what I'm seeing, this is the worst December I've seen in years. Sales dropped early in the month and the end-of-month traffic and sales are horrible and the weather hasn't been a factor until the past few days... bitter cold but little snow. This December is like what January is usually like sales wise. We picked up my wife's 2018 Escape tonight. The finance lady at the dealership said they have been pretty busy this month. Edited December 28, 2017 by Pioneer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 We picked up my wife's 2018 Escape tonight. The finance lady at the dealership said they have been pretty busy this month. The Northeast almost never or rarely does as well as the rest of the country or other sales regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) It's going to be very interesting to see what the December sales figures turn out to be. Compared to previous years when Ford made big incentive changes for the end of the month, this year they made minimal changes and appear to be relying on their 0% APR 72 month financing. From what I'm seeing, this is the worst December I've seen in years. Sales dropped early in the month and the end-of-month traffic and sales are horrible and the weather hasn't been a factor until the past few days... bitter cold but little snow. This December is like what January is usually like sales wise. The Northeast almost never or rarely does as well as the rest of the country or other sales regions. For the past two years, Ford Brand December sales have been around 227K-228K but with what you're seeing with fewer seasonal incentives, I suspect Ford will simply replicate November's sales at around 201K or maybe 204K but even that would be a huge drop year on year of about 10 to 13% and about 60K down on 2016 year total..- 2.4%? Edited December 28, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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