ANTAUS Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/14/ford-everest-raptor-performance-suv/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Don't dilute the brand!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I wanted them to pay more attention to some lincoln sports division. It's time for Ford to exalt it. Lincoln Nautilus GTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Don't dilute the brand!!!! How does it dilute the brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 How does it dilute the brand? As long as they dont pull a Chevy (with the SS trim) and tack it on every model with little in the way of upgrades, I dont have a problem with them expanding Raptor to other vehicles. They just need to be worthy of the name though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Exactly. There is no indication the Ranger Raptor is any less than the F150 Raptor and Everest would be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I would expect to see a Bronco Raptor first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I would expect to see a Bronco Raptor first But Everest is already in production and could be brought out much sooner than Bronco (in ROW of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 But Everest is already in production and could be brought out much sooner than Bronco (in ROW of course). True, but the opportunity is there for a better Raptor SUV with a brand new Bronco than what the Everest could offer at this point in its cycle. And thats not factoring in the legendary off road history of the Bronco that the Everest doesnt have. That alone is worth something I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Why is it either/or? Bring out Everest Raptor now for ROW and Bronco Raptor when it’s ready. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Why is it either/or? Bring out Everest Raptor now for ROW and Bronco Raptor when its ready. By that logic, why wait until 2020 for the Explorer ST? Why not do it this year when they just gave it a refresh? If youre going to do it, do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Because you can’t do a Raptor on a transverse FWD platform. Everest already has the right platform and the parts are available from the Raptor Ranger for the most part. It’s a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Because you cant do a Raptor on a transverse FWD platform. Everest already has the right platform and the parts are available from the Raptor Ranger for the most part. Its a no brainer. I didnt say anything about an Explorer Raptor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Explorer is changing platforms and going from FWD to RWD. And I think that CAP is close to being maxed out. They were cutting Taurus production to make more Explorers. Everest is already on T6 and will stay on T6. It shares the current platform with the current Ranger Raptor. There is no reason to wait for the new version of T6 - it’s already Raptor compatible and most of the work was already done with Ranger Raptor. Explorer already has a Sport version which has the bigger engine already but not all the suspension work of a true ST. Not worth the effort to make a ST now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Explorer is changing platforms and going from FWD to RWD. And I think that CAP is close to being maxed out. They were cutting Taurus production to make more Explorers. Explorer already has a Sport version which has the bigger engine already but not all the suspension work of a true ST. Not worth the effort to make a ST now. Well yeah, all things being equal though ST just fills the same hole sat the Sport currently does. Seems thats what theyre banking on for the Edge ST. Side note, I sometimes wish they moved the Taurus out of CAP to Oakville years ago, that way they wouldnt be so handcuffed by capacity there. Everest is already on T6 and will stay on T6. It shares the current platform with the current Ranger Raptor. There is no reason to wait for the new version of T6 - its already Raptor compatible and most of the work was already done with Ranger Raptor.Right, but based on the quotes in the article theres some questions with the rear end of the Everest, presumably due to the added weight of the enclosed body vs. the pickup bed. Since its assumed the Bronco is coming before NG Everest, it makes more sense to use the Bronco first (its nearly a clean sheet after all) and use the lessons learned there to apply on a NG Everest Raptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I agree if we’re talking about next gen, sure. But there is no reason they can’t put the current Ranger Raptor components on the current Everest in ROW if they wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 AFAIK: Everest Raptor? Yes. Bronco Raptor? Yes. Expedition Raptor? Ehhh... Explorer Raptor? No. Firm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I agree if were talking about next gen, sure. But there is no reason they cant put the current Ranger Raptor components on the current Everest in ROW if they wanted to. This pretty much sums it up why they could do the Everest right now. And why not, more options for customers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 AFAIK: Everest Raptor? Yes. Bronco Raptor? Yes. Expedition Raptor? Ehhh... Explorer Raptor? No. Firm. Fitting, I think. Explorer is not an off-roader at all, and needs ST more than a Raptor. Expedition? Meh, don't really see the need, but then again, you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Difficult to raptorize a unibody. But Explorer ST is a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Difficult to raptorize a unibody. But Explorer ST is a given. That would be a formalizing of the Explorer Sport much the same as what happened with Edge Sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I would expect to see a Bronco Raptor first You won't be seeing Everest in the USA so I say, go for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 So the rumored Bronco+everest+Ranger USA thing is dead? Or is everest replaced by Aviator in this equation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 You won't be seeing Everest in the USA so I say, go for it. .. Ranger and Bronco Raptor only for the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 So the rumored Bronco+everest+Ranger USA thing is dead? Or is everest replaced by Aviator in this equation? Aviator is the Lincoln Explorer The Everest has been nothing more then a rumor and IMO you'd be dividing the market up between the Bronco and Everest too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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