rmc523 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, jcartwright99 said: So are we going to assume the Bronco will get a Raptor version? If so, I would think the 3.0 TT would fit the bill. That would be your range topper. The only thing is there's only so many powertrains they're going to offer. They won't have 5-6 different options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 12 hours ago, akirby said: V8 - probably not. V6? Virtually guaranteed. Given how well a 2.3 Ranger spanked the Gladiator in the Gauntlet challenge, how much more power does a T6 Bronco need vs Wrangler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, J-150 said: Given how well a 2.3 Ranger spanked the Gladiator in the Gauntlet challenge, how much more power does a T6 Bronco need vs Wrangler? Just as an example, a loaded AWD Everest weighs 5500lbs or 2494Kg The Wrangler weighs nearly 1000lbs less in some configurations or about 500lbs less The Ranger weighs about 4400lb fully loaded So expect the Bronco to between those two weights, since it will have more sheetmetal to it then the Wrangler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Just as an example, a loaded AWD Everest weighs 5500lbs or 2494Kg The Wrangler weighs nearly 1000lbs less in some configurations or about 500lbs less The Ranger weighs about 4400lb fully loaded So expect the Bronco to between those two weights, since it will have more sheetmetal to it then the Wrangler Unlike the Ranger we got here the Bronco is a 100% new vehicle essentially from the ground up. They can incorporate way more lightweight technology (liberal use of aluminum, etc) with it than they could with the Ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgeoffroad04 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Unlike the Ranger we got here the Bronco is a 100% new vehicle essentially from the ground up. They can incorporate way more lightweight technology (liberal use of aluminum, etc) with it than they could with the Ranger. Is that a hint at the use of aluminum? Or wishful thining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Unlike the Ranger we got here the Bronco is a 100% new vehicle essentially from the ground up. They can incorporate way more lightweight technology (liberal use of aluminum, etc) with it than they could with the Ranger. Right, but I was providing that as a baseline-I wouldn't expect it to weigh as much as the Everest...I'm thinking around 5K pounds or so. The Edge (which is roughly what I expect the Bronco to be around the size of) is only 4K in AWD guise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, grbeck said: Somehow, I doubt that FCA management will do this. GM management, on the other hand, seems to be in its own world right now. People who know and love Jeep will continue to buy it, Bronco as a sub brand can do a lot to change Ford's image in terms of off road capability - look at what Ford is doing with SD Tremor and you just know that something special is brewing within the brand. GM is very different, it will watch Ford and Jeep and then suddenly decide it wants in on those segments and rush something to market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Edgeoffroad04 said: Is that a hint at the use of aluminum? Or wishful thining? No, I'm not hinting at anything in particular. Just saying it's much easier to do with a ground up design rather than something that's already a finished package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, J-150 said: Given how well a 2.3 Ranger spanked the Gladiator in the Gauntlet challenge, how much more power does a T6 Bronco need vs Wrangler? ..so imagine if the 2.3 EB was a base engine in Bronco and NG Ranger... In fairness, the Ranger only towed 5,000 lbs up the Gauntlet because the Tacoma's max tow rating was 6,400 lb and they didn't want to risk exceeding its gross combined rating. The Gladiator towed it's max 7,000 lb up the Gauntlet in just over nine minutes but man, that V6 was all wrung out doing it as altitude robbed horsepower. I would love to see the team repeat the Extreme Gauntlet with Ranger and Colorado and sure, Tacoma at it 6,400 lb max for good measure. Edited June 27, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resaca95 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Any word on a diesel option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, resaca95 said: Any word on a diesel option? Hard no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, J-150 said: Given how well a 2.3 Ranger spanked the Gladiator in the Gauntlet challenge, how much more power does a T6 Bronco need vs Wrangler? None...u dont buy a wrangler for its power...inline 6 in a wrangler and it would still keep the heep fans happy and the line moving..we will soon know what market ford intends to chase with the bronc...not completly convinced it will be a wrangler buyer... Edited June 28, 2019 by snooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Is there even a point to diesels today if you're not towing? They used to have better MPGs but I believe emission controls have eaten away at those? Plus diesel is so expensive today.... and the initial price premium, I don't see the appeal unless you tow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 hours ago, snooter said: We will soon know what market ford intends to chase with the bronc...not completly convinced it will be a wrangler buyer... Its not...its doing its own take of what it thinks it going to be...its aiming for a more civilized vehicle that doesn't give up comfort for off road abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Its not...its doing its own take of what it thinks it going to be...its aiming for a more civilized vehicle that doesn't give up comfort for off road abilities. with available aftermarket options to address offroad prowess.....I like Fords take, as only a minute percentage will be utilized for "rock crawling" and the like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 14 hours ago, resaca95 said: Any word on a diesel option? diesels ultimately going to go bye bye in my opinion...electric is 100% torque avail at zero RPMS....a hybrid drivetrain of some sort may ultimately make diesel obsolete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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