silvrsvt Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/auto/ford-drops-diesel-minivan-from-lineup-due-to-low-demand.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Not surprising, as diesels aren't too popular outside of trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Smart move by Ford. Diesel power is a dead end for Class 1 commercial vehicles in the U.S., as well as for passenger cars and crossovers. Hopefully Ford will make a BEV version of the Transit Connect available in the next 3 years. And hopefully they'll avoid the mistakes from their last Transit Connect EV they collaborated with Azure Dynamics on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 personally I think it would have been terrific, however...I think we will see Hybrids ultimately replacing diesels engines in anything but vehicles designed to tow large loads... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, rperez817 said: Hopefully Ford will make a BEV version of the Transit Connect available in the next 3 years. If you believe what the Detroit News wrote yesterday, this is exactly what will happen. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2019/07/10/ford-vw-alliance-autonomous-electric-vehicles/1695632001/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnm Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Maybe I’m dense.... how can there be lack of demand when it was never available to buy? I’ve never seen one yet on a dealer lot or on the streets. Available late 2019 is what I remember seeing/hearing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, mnm said: Maybe I’m dense.... how can there be lack of demand when it was never available to buy? I’ve never seen one yet on a dealer lot or on the streets. Available late 2019 is what I remember seeing/hearing? NO orders for diesel so I guess they just didn't proceed with bringing any over for stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deanh said: personally I think it would have been terrific, however...I think we will see Hybrids ultimately replacing diesels engines in anything but vehicles designed to tow large loads... Cue mlhm5 and perez817 extolling the virtue of Teslas' as yet in production Semi in 5..4..3..2... Edited July 11, 2019 by twintornados 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, mackinaw said: If you believe what the Detroit News wrote yesterday, this is exactly what will happen. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2019/07/10/ford-vw-alliance-autonomous-electric-vehicles/1695632001/ It's been rumored for a few years ever since Mark Fields announced that autonomous BEV project for Flat Rock right before he was canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: It's been rumored for a few years ever since Mark Fields announced that autonomous BEV project for Flat Rock right before he was canned. I do remember those rumors. The difference now is that the Transit Connect will be built on the VW EV platform (assuming the Ford/VW cooperative venture does takes place). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, jpd80 said: NO orders for diesel so I guess they just didn't proceed with bringing any over for stock no one even really knew about it and it was late availability anyways....if they had actually arrived, and been drivable the story would be somewhat different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, twintornados said: Cue mlhm5 and perez817 extolling the virtue of Teslas' as yet in production Semi in 5..4..3..2... you forgot the speedster and pickup...oh and Model Y...……….not sure of all the dates of those announcements , but they correlate when Tesla needed an injection of cash..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT90SC Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, mnm said: Maybe I’m dense.... how can there be lack of demand when it was never available to buy? I’ve never seen one yet on a dealer lot or on the streets. Available late 2019 is what I remember seeing/hearing? 6 hours ago, jpd80 said: NO orders for diesel so I guess they just didn't proceed with bringing any over for stock There was/is NO real advantage to a small diesel in North America, especially in this application. Fuel operating costs per mile? Not once they met our standards for emissions and diesel usually is higher priced than gas. Longevity? Not with modern diesels. More to buy upfront. More to maintain. And that is not figuring in issues with non-owners putting the wrong fuel or DEF in the tank and having a $10k repair bill. Resale value difference will be almost none. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve557 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Not surprising, diesel stopped being good in 2007 (or early 2003 in Ford’s case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I think Ford must have Federalized the diesel Transit Connect based on order commitment from a (or a few) large fleet operator. And maybe that fleet customer changed its mind, which means there is really no point to go through with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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