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1 hour ago, 02MustangGT said:

No thanks.  Looks like a S2000 

Looks nothing like a S2000.

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7 hours ago, akirby said:

Looks nothing like a S2000.

You’re right, the S2000 looks better than that stale/boring Porsche styling.  To each their own.  

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56 minutes ago, 02MustangGT said:

You’re right, the S2000 looks better than that stale/boring Porsche styling.  To each their own.  

What the hell does Porsche have to do with it?

If you want to go down the "looks like" rabbit hole it looks like a bastardized Lambo.

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1 hour ago, MY93SHO said:

What the hell does Porsche have to do with it?

If you want to go down the "looks like" rabbit hole it looks like a bastardized Lambo.

Read the thread and my initial response to the Porsche photo that blownsmoke posted.   

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2 hours ago, 02MustangGT said:

You’re right, the S2000 looks better than that stale/boring Porsche styling.  To each their own.  

I agree with you 02MustangGT sir that the old Honda S2000 looks better than 982 Boxster. I particularly like the 2007 S2000 Club Racer in Apex Blue Pearl. But when you're in the driver's seat of either of those cars, the exterior style doesn't really matter. 😀

I've driven both. S2000 is super fun to drive. But Boxster/Cayman takes driving enjoyment to an even higher level. Boxster/Cayman is tuned in a way that makes you feel like the car is an extension of the driver. I think that's a combination of the physics of mid engine layout and the amazing chassis engineering that Porsche does.

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There's going to be a lot of collectors that want the "first of this generation".  No matter what build they can get.

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i have to admit its a really nice looking car, and price is pretty good

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On 7/29/2019 at 2:41 PM, coupe3w said:

2020 Corvette nearly sold out......

The price is what's doing it.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/gm-designer-says-the-2020-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-is-nearly-sold-out

I find this hard to believe-What I do believe is that they took enough orders to equal what they normally sell or where expecting to sell with a new Corvette. They aren't going artificially limit themselves if the demand is there. Its not a limited production vehicle like the GT350/500...since the cost of those programs are based on regular Mustang program. 

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31 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

I find this hard to believe-What I do believe is that they took enough orders to equal what they normally sell or where expecting to sell with a new Corvette. They aren't going artificially limit themselves if the demand is there. Its not a limited production vehicle like the GT350/500...since the cost of those programs are based on regular Mustang program. 

Corvette production is limited because there's only one plant in the world that builds it. Plus C8 brings RHD configuration to Corvette for the first time. GM has to plan for the new demand from RHD markets.

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Curious to what "sold out" equates to actual production numbers...

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4 hours ago, rperez817 said:

Corvette production is limited because there's only one plant in the world that builds it. Plus C8 brings RHD configuration to Corvette for the first time. GM has to plan for the new demand from RHD markets.

Seriously?

Bowling Green is about 1.7M Square Feet and only builds about what? 25-30K cars a year?

Edison, when it was open, was 1.3M sqft and built at least 2-3X that amount of Mustangs/Pintos/Escorts/Rangers in a year when it was open. 

Bowling Green can build quite a few more cars then it has been over the years without ill effect. 

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1 hour ago, silvrsvt said:

Seriously?

Bowling Green is about 1.7M Square Feet and only builds about what? 25-30K cars a year?

Edison, when it was open, was 1.3M sqft and built at least 2-3X that amount of Mustangs/Pintos/Escorts/Rangers in a year when it was open. 

Bowling Green can build quite a few more cars then it has been over the years without ill effect. 

Yes sir, seriously. The floor area of the plant isn't what determines annual production numbers for Corvette.

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2 hours ago, rperez817 said:

Yes sir, seriously. The floor area of the plant isn't what determines annual production numbers for Corvette.

And your missing the point-there is no reason that cannot produce more cars then it has been. Best year for Corvette production was 53K back in 1978 and the highest in recent memory was 40K in 2016 all at the same plant.

Chevy isn't going to artificially limit the cars production if there is a demand for it. 

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44 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

And your missing the point-there is no reason that cannot produce more cars then it has been. Best year for Corvette production was 53K back in 1978 and the highest in recent memory was 40K in 2016 all at the same plant.

Chevy isn't going to artificially limit the cars production if there is a demand for it.  

and yet that is exactly what you say Ford is going to do with the GT350/500 Mustangs. No good reason why, since 2018 production was 45K+ down from 2015, the capability should be there to build all they can sell, no matter what model/trim.

HRG

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5 hours ago, silvrsvt said:

there is no reason that cannot produce more cars then it has been. Best year for Corvette production was 53K back in 1978 and the highest in recent memory was 40K in 2016 all at the same plant.

Past generation Corvette production numbers are irrelevant.

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11 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said:

and yet that is exactly what you say Ford is going to do with the GT350/500 Mustangs. No good reason why, since 2018 production was 45K+ down from 2015, the capability should be there to build all they can sell, no matter what model/trim.

HRG

Completely irrelevant-the Mustang product is funded by selling $25-30K Ecoboost and $32K GT models. The GT350/500 are limited production models that start at nearly double that cost and have a much larger markup/profit and add cache to the Ford brand. 

GM isn't going to limit production of a car that starts at say $57K if there is a demand-especially on something that as of late couldn't clear 30K units sold in a year. That would be like Ford limiting sales of the lower end Mustangs just because (with in reason regarding the market conditions). Given the numbers that the Corvette sells in, I wonder how much profit GM actual makes on them. 

In the grand scheme of things, the the 2 door coupe market isn't that big...I would be seriously surprised if they could sell 40K+ of them in a year...but we will see I guess. 

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On 8/1/2019 at 6:52 AM, silvrsvt said:

Completely irrelevant-the Mustang product is funded by selling $25-30K Ecoboost and $32K GT models. The GT350/500 are limited production models that start at nearly double that cost and have a much larger markup/profit and add cache to the Ford brand. 

GM isn't going to limit production of a car that starts at say $57K if there is a demand-especially on something that as of late couldn't clear 30K units sold in a year. That would be like Ford limiting sales of the lower end Mustangs just because (with in reason regarding the market conditions). Given the numbers that the Corvette sells in, I wonder how much profit GM actual makes on them. 

In the grand scheme of things, the the 2 door coupe market isn't that big...I would be seriously surprised if they could sell 40K+ of them in a year...but we will see I guess. 

What about any notion of marketing towards the exclusivity of a product?

Think about a company like Rolex. They produce around 1 million watches a year. They could produce and sell a ton more, but they choose not to. So buying a "used" Rolex is often more expensive than buying the same model brand new.

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A bit of color from reliable sources,

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Quote = Ed753

Appears my "Inside Information" created quite a stir and plenty of confusion, I apologize..................

When I said CALENDAR YEAR, I meant CALENDAR YEAR 2020, as is 1/1/2020 - 12/31/2020

I didn't say model year, because I have no idea when they are going to switch the 10th digit in the VIN, and change the 2020 to 2021 on the window sticker, in my world, as an OE supplier, it's meaningless.

The source of my information was from May 2019; with SOP around the middle of January 2020, now that we are in August, I just downloaded July's file.....................

The new file now shows SOP to be in December and CALENDAR YEAR 2020, as in 1/1/2020 - 12/31/2020 - to be a bit over 33,000 with 20,000 in the January to June timeframe, the second half of the year is about the same at around 12,000 or 2,000/month. (now it looks like about 1,000 will be built in December 2019)

Presumably this would be an increase to build inventory and appease early spring/summer demand.

 

 


 

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According the the plant director at Bowling Green the C8 isn't really more difficult to build.

He did mention that the facility is setup to build both the C7 and C8 at the same time (which still sounds like it was the plan at some point). So maybe even though they supposedly added a lot more overall capacity, it was supposed to be spread over C7 and C8 production, and C8 production capacity alone is still relatively limited.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, SodiumMonkey said:

What about any notion of marketing towards the exclusivity of a product?

Think about a company like Rolex. They produce around 1 million watches a year. They could produce and sell a ton more, but they choose not to. So buying a "used" Rolex is often more expensive than buying the same model brand new.

Or the Ford GT-but the Corvette doesn't have that cache either. 

The point is this-why are they selling a brand new platform with major changes over the last gen for roughly the same price? The major changes would justify a price increase (I'm not saying 100K, but I think 70K or so is reasonable) and you'd improve profitability of the product. Increasing the price would help increase the cache (because of it costs and would remove some buyers at the lower end), not to mention the 2 door coupe market isn't exactly a growth segment. The could sell around 40K of them if things are right (going by past sales), but Corvette sales have been slowing year after year. Even the NSX and other cars aren't exactly setting the sales charts on fire.  

If they really want to grow the corvette brand, they'd need to come out with a CUV like Porsche and everyone else...

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Why did the 2020 Corvette key fobs have Caddy emblems? Answered here:

https://www.motor1.com/news/364998/corvette-c8-key-cadillac-logo/

According to the publication, how the Cadillac logo ended up on a C8 Corvette key is far less exciting than a secret mid-engine Cadillac program. A month after the photos of the key fob surfaced there was a report the Corvette would be delayed due to a “major electrical issue.” The problem? Halfway through C8 Corvette development, General Motors decided to use its new Global B electronic architecture – a new architecture designed for electric vehicles, autonomous driving systems, over-the-air updates, safety, and more. 

So typical of GM-lets implement something halfway through the process of developing a new car!

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1 hour ago, silvrsvt said:

Why did the 2020 Corvette key fobs have Caddy emblems? Answered here:

https://www.motor1.com/news/364998/corvette-c8-key-cadillac-logo/
 

 

One of the comments were why is that Cadillac fob for a convertible if it’s supposedly borrowed from a CT5. Valid question. 

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