mackinaw Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Dlcorbett said: Anyone else notice the suspension. It looked like the prototype has irs. There were some pictures posted a few months back of an IRS F-150. Perhaps that was an EV truck we were looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I wonder how long until Ford and GM start going at each other with BEV Trucks..... That's right, GM just realized how far behind it is with a BEV truck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: That's right, GM just realized how far behind it is with a BEV truck.. Not according to rperez..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, akirby said: Not according to rperez..... Yeah, not so long ago mother Mary was saying that BEV trucks were a long way off and then a sudden change when they couldn't clinch the deal with Rivian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: I wonder how long until Ford and GM start going at each other with BEV Trucks..... That's right, GM just realized how far behind it is with a BEV truck.. Or, how far ahead they were back in 1997,,,,, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_S-10_EV HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The Rivian deal was a cheap way to work with and not compete with what could have been a major competitor, it also basically took them out from working with another OEM and the cost was less than One Quarter profit of what Ford makes off the F-150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddysystem Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 This stunt felt a little stupid like some GM commercials. I'm surprised that the strap held. Would have expected a solid link or a real tow hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, buddysystem said: This stunt felt a little stupid like some GM commercials. I'm surprised that the strap held. Would have expected a solid link or a real tow hitch. I too was more impressed with the strap. To if the had three or more log chains (if they could do the job), would have made it more dramatic. I wonder if they experimented on how fast to pull a d when to stop since it appeared they were near the end of track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I was impressed at the angle of the tow strap, and how the back end of the truck stayed planted. With the strap not being directly in line with the pull, and with that much weight, I would have expected it to break the rear end loose and slide it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Right now there is an f150 owner with a blended scotch in one hand and a flashlight in his mouth hooking up the 25klb 5th wheel behind his 2015 f150 cause he seen a f150 pullin a million pounds so by gosh ford says it can be done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, buddysystem said: This stunt felt a little stupid like some GM commercials. I'm surprised that the strap held. Would have expected a solid link or a real tow hitch. The coefficient of friction is so low all it had to do was break friction of the wheel bearings (and steel wheel on rail) and it would move the cars..kinda surprised legal let them go ahead with this but shoving anything up teslas nose is good move Edited July 24, 2019 by snooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Or, how far ahead they were back in 1997,,,,, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_S-10_EV HRG And Ford was right there with their version.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_EV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Or, how far ahead they were back in 1997,,,,, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_S-10_EV HRG Ford was making the Ranger EV from 1997-2002, while the S10 EV was made from 97 to 98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, twintornados said: And Ford was right there with their version.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_EV Thanks! I could not find that article. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 hours ago, jasonj80 said: The Rivian deal was a cheap way to work with and not compete with what could have been a major competitor, it also basically took them out from working with another OEM and the cost was less than One Quarter profit of what Ford makes off the F-150. The Rivian deal is does not make them exclusive to Ford. That was the entire reason they did not go with GM - GM wanted exclusivity, Rivian did not. Rivian will continue to work with other manufacturers, GM included, if they can work out a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Anthony said: The Rivian deal is does not make them exclusive to Ford. That was the entire reason they did not go with GM - GM wanted exclusivity, Rivian did not. Rivian will continue to work with other manufacturers, GM included, if they can work out a deal. I was wondering how Rivian is going to fit into Ford's lineup-then it dawned on me...if they get the SUV variant as part of the deal, we will most likely see it as a Lincoln. The pickup seems to be slotted in-between the Ranger and F-150, so I guess we will see that as a higher end Ford product-maybe call it a F-100e? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) It is not exclusive, but what other OEM company is going to work with them now? GM's offer wanted full company control; while Ford doesn't have a controlling interest only investment, it has a seat on Rivian's Board. FoMoCo offers allowed Rivian to remain independent while allowing Ford a voice at the table. That seat lets them see what any other OEM is going to propose to do and respond accordingly. The investment also gets Ford first refusal to Rivian's electric/carbon credits if it needs them in the future for markets. Edited July 24, 2019 by jasonj80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Obviously it's a marketing stunt but it does show how much power you can get from electric motors and batteries. I'm sure some folks were skeptical about that. As for stopping I'm sure there is enough friction for it to stop within a few feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 hours ago, jpd80 said: That's right, GM just realized how far behind it is with a BEV truck.. Both GM CEO Mary Barra and President Mark Reuss confirmed recently that their BEV pickup truck is currently under development. So in terms of design & development, GM is not "far behind" Ford or Tesla. https://www.wardsauto.com/technology/gm-talks-electric-pickups-again The big question is which of those three companies (or maybe a different company altogether) will be first to mass produce BEV pickup trucks and make them available for sale to retail consumers. I think Ford is in the best position here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, rperez817 said: Both GM CEO Mary Barra and President Mark Reuss confirmed recently that their BEV pickup truck is currently under development. So in terms of design & development, GM is not "far behind" Ford or Tesla. https://www.wardsauto.com/technology/gm-talks-electric-pickups-again The big question is which of those three companies (or maybe a different company altogether) will be first to mass produce BEV pickup trucks and make them available for sale to retail consumers. I think Ford is in the best position here. The Bronco has also been "in development" since what, 2016? Just because something's "in development" doesn't mean it's far along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Just because something's "in development" doesn't mean it's far along. Yes sir. Announcements like this one from Ford as well as the ones from Barra and Ruess at GM and Elon Musk at Tesla indicate that all three companies are very serious about BEV pickup trucks. As I mentioned, ultimately what matters is getting from the development phase to the "ready to sell" phase. When exactly that will happen is still unconfirmed for all three automakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, akirby said: Obviously it's a marketing stunt but it does show how much power you can get from electric motors and batteries. I'm sure some folks were skeptical about that. As for stopping I'm sure there is enough friction for it to stop within a few feet. Uh no...but you gave it a good try.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: The Bronco has also been "in development" since what, 2016? Just because something's "in development" doesn't mean it's far along. Excellent point. Rivian is a start-up which I don't believe has sold a single vehicle yet. Their truck platform may be of great use to Ford but also could turn out to be of little or no value. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, snooter said: Uh no...but you gave it a good try.... Wow, you typed a sentence that wasn't half gibberish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Trader 10 said: Excellent point. Rivian is a start-up which I don't believe has sold a single vehicle yet. Their truck platform may be of great use to Ford but also could turn out to be of little or no value. Time will tell. My point was there's a tangible something to Ford's EV truck. There's a tangible something to Rivian's EV truck even if they've not gone into production yet. We haven't seen anything from GM aside from it's "in development." Yet some think Ford is the one "behind" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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