MY93SHO Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Decent motor in a poor selling truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, twintornados said: Decent motor in a poor selling truck. Depends on what you call "decent". Reports I've read state that the engine got about 1mpg better than the Ford 6.7 diesel. And a lot less torque. So not much of a savings of going full on Super Duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, 92merc said: Depends on what you call "decent". Reports I've read state that the engine got about 1mpg better than the Ford 6.7 diesel. And a lot less torque. So not much of a savings of going full on Super Duty. That motor may just die a slow death...cannot see anything on the market that would benefit having this under the hood. Ford GM and RAM all have their diesels for their half tons and this would be a bit small for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT90SC Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 At one point I thought they were going to put it in old bones... I mean Tundra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, 92merc said: Depends on what you call "decent". Reports I've read state that the engine got about 1mpg better than the Ford 6.7 diesel. And a lot less torque. So not much of a savings of going full on Super Duty. Yeah, I read about the one C&D had when I was at the barber's. That thing ate injectors like they were Skittles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Looks like the single cab is heading out the same door that the Cummins 5.0L exited through... https://www.motor1.com/news/363767/refreshed-nissan-titan-loses-diesel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 They really should worry more about the straight out of 2002 Frontier instead.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: They really should worry more about the straight out of 2002 Frontier instead.... Maybe going forward, they'll pull a Toyota and do a chassis merge with Titan or vise versa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: They really should worry more about the straight out of 2002 Frontier instead.... I've read they supposedly have a new one almost ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 All respects to the 5.0 V8 Cummins diesel but 310 HP / 550 lb ft in a relatively heavy engine and truck was always going to add up to a less than satisfactory result. Ram is now punching out 260 HP / 480 lb ft out of the 3.0 V6 Ecodiesel, increase that to say, a 3.6 diesel and those numbers become 303 HP / 560 lb ft. Now that engine would be a serious hauler in a 1500 truck..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodboogie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Drove one for a few weeks. So much lag and drank fuel. I really wanted to like it but their gas motor was better IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Whatever Nissan did to Titan XD, buyers didn't like so this looks like a major reset, the XD diesel falls into bad no mans land, lacks 1/2 ton fuel economy, lacks 3/4 ton's capacity. It's not particularly a good diesel either, the 6.7 I-6 now produces 1,000 lb ft, so a 5.0 diesel should be up around 750 lb ft not 550 lb ft. A giant chocolate teapot that nearly every potential buyer saw and avoided like the plague, how or why Nissan failed to see this coming is the real question and whoever was responsible of dreaming up this combo needs to be put in the corner away from any new developments. Edited September 2, 2019 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Whatever Nissan did to Titan XD, buyers didn't like so this looks like a major reset, the XD diesel falls into bad no mans land, lacks 1/2 ton fuel economy, lacks 3/4 ton's capacity. It's not particularly a good diesel either, the 6.7 I-6 now produces 1,000 lb ft, so a 5.0 diesel should be up around 750 lb ft not 550 lb ft. A giant chocolate teapot that nearly every potential buyer saw and avoided like the plague, how or why Nissan failed to see this coming is the real question and whoever was responsible of dreaming up this combo needs to be put in the corner away from any new developments. I saw one in the used lot of my local Chevy dealer not even a months after they went on sale. That should say everything about what actual buyers thought about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I saw one in the used lot of my local Chevy dealer not even a months after they went on sale. That should say everything about what actual buyers thought about it. I can imagine quite a few of those turning up in the next 12 months as buyers realize their mistake or wait for a tax write down so they can kick it out of their lives.... I think this is also why Ford resisted using the 4.4 V8 diesel as used in the Range Rover, it's similar to the Cummins 5.0 with 335 hp and 516 lb ft and again, not enough torque compared to the 6.7s above and the 3.0 diesels below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 17 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I saw one in the used lot of my local Chevy dealer not even a months after they went on sale. That should say everything about what actual buyers thought about it. If it was indeed a trade in-then yes. I am wondering if it was just too much truck-either size wise/ or the payment was too much. You could buy a half-ton Silverado (LT) nicely equipped for a good $10,000.00 less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, CKNSLS said: If it was indeed a trade in-then yes. I am wondering if it was just too much truck-either size wise/ or the payment was too much. You could buy a half-ton Silverado (LT) nicely equipped for a good $10,000.00 less. Correct, it's both an over priced 1/2 ton and an under capacity 3/4 ton.....it pleases no one. I think it also underscores why Ram ultimately passed on the Cummins 5.0 V8, the fuel economy and torque increase not enough to justify the price over a gasoline V8 Edited September 2, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Correct, it's both an over priced 1/2 ton and an under capacity 3/4 ton.....it pleases no one. The answer to a question nobody asked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: The answer to a question nobody asked And yet Ford, GM and Dodge have offered "heavy half" payload packages for decades. So yeah, someone did ask the question... and it was answer by Detroit many times. Nissan has been struggling to find a niche they could exploit. This was a valid niche. But they guessed wrong on the take rate. Kind of like when Toyota tried a flare side and failed miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 A good idea that doesn't hold up to scrutiny is actual not a good idea. whatever Nissan is doing, combined Titan sales are falling, they need to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Ford also makes a version of the Lion V6 for J/LR that's rated at 296 HP and 516 lb ft, but there's been no push from buyers to use something like that in F150 for a max tow option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 43 minutes ago, jpd80 said: A good idea that doesn't hold up to scrutiny is actual not a good idea. whatever Nissan is doing, combined Titan sales are falling, they need to act. At this point they should just give up on the full size trucks and focus on Frontier, though with a new Ranger, Taco and updated Canyorado right around the corner they have their work cut out for them there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 15 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: At this point they should just give up on the full size trucks and focus on Frontier, though with a new Ranger, Taco and updated Canyorado right around the corner they have their work cut out for them there too. Supposedly a new Frontier is also around the corner, but I feel like that's been the rumor for years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Supposedly a new Frontier is also around the corner... Sounds like a campaign slogan for a politician... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Supposedly a new Frontier is also around the corner, but I feel like that's been the rumor for years now. And just like the "new" Titan it will be old when it debuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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