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GM Looking for Investors to Pay for Fast-Charging Network Stations

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Interesting article about how GM is approaching a build out for its EV charging network. 

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General Motors’ electric vehicle plans rely on a variety of factors to be successful, not the least of which is a massive nationwide network of fast-charging electric stations for its coming fleet of battery-electric vehicles. The question on GM’s mind: who will pay for it? Not GM.

The company is already paired up with Bechtel Corp., a construction company, to form a joint venture, but officials confirmed the duo are looking for investors to fund the construction and installation of chargers for use with the Chevy Bolt as well as GM’s future vehicles.

“We don’t wish to spend our capital to build fast chargers,” Mike Ableson, GM’s vice president, electric vehicle charging and infrastructure, said Wednesday at the CAR Management Briefing Seminars in Traverse City, Michigan. When GM and Bechtel announced their initial tie-up in late May, they said they would be searching for additional investors. Ableson said that no new investors have signed on in the interim.   [/quote]

Another example of how we are nowhere close to having the infrastructure (in the form of fast charging stations) in place to support the supposed/hyped massive market move to EV's.

Full article:  https://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2019/08/gm-looking-for-investors-to-pay-for-fast-charging-network-stations/

Edited by Harley Lover

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Could you imagine the chaos if when vehicles that required unleaded fuel back in the 1970's had different fuel necks that would only accept a certain shape of nozzle to properly fuel a Chevrolet and there was a different shape to fuel a Ford and a still different shape to fuel a Dodge and then a popular upstart began building vehicles that required you to fuel up at their "supergas" fueling stations that no one else could use unless a competing brand "bought in" to their fueling tech?

What is needed is for there to be one "standard" fast charge plug and all vehicle manufacturers need to adopt for EV's. Guess it is time for government regulators to step in and make it so.

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23 minutes ago, twintornados said:

Could you imagine the chaos if when vehicles that required unleaded fuel back in the 1970's had different fuel necks that would only accept a certain shape of nozzle to properly fuel a Chevrolet and there was a different shape to fuel a Ford and a still different shape to fuel a Dodge and then a popular upstart began building vehicles that required you to fuel up at their "supergas" fueling stations that no one else could use unless a competing brand "bought in" to their fueling tech?

What is needed is for there to be one "standard" fast charge plug and all vehicle manufacturers need to adopt for EV's. Guess it is time for government regulators to step in and make it so.

Excellent analogy. Too bad the auto companies can't learn from their own history.

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29 minutes ago, twintornados said:

Could you imagine the chaos if when vehicles that required unleaded fuel back in the 1970's had different fuel necks that would only accept a certain shape of nozzle to properly fuel a Chevrolet and there was a different shape to fuel a Ford and a still different shape to fuel a Dodge and then a popular upstart began building vehicles that required you to fuel up at their "supergas" fueling stations that no one else could use unless a competing brand "bought in" to their fueling tech?

What is needed is for there to be one "standard" fast charge plug and all vehicle manufacturers need to adopt for EV's. Guess it is time for government regulators to step in and make it so.

Come on now, you just need a charger with 3 or 4 adapters lol.

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Edited by blwnsmoke

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Someone eager for EV's said "oh, my wife and I can go shop for the hour that our EV is charging.."

 

Who has time to "shop"? Mall Stores are closing!

Edited by 630land

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On 8/10/2019 at 8:48 AM, twintornados said:

What is needed is for there to be one "standard" fast charge plug and all vehicle manufacturers need to adopt for EV's. Guess it is time for government regulators to step in and make it so.

That standard should be Tesla Supercharger. Elon Musk said last year that Tesla is very open to other automakers using its Supercharger network. But no other automakers have taken up the offer.

“We’ve always said that this is not intended to be a walled garden, and we’re happy to support other automakers and let them use our Supercharger stations. They would just need to pay, you know, share the costs proportionate to their vehicle usage, and they would need to be able to accept our charge rate or at least our connector, at least have an adapter to our connector. This is something that we are very open to, but so far, none of the other car makers have wanted to do this. It’s not because of opposition from us. This is not a walled garden.”

2 hours ago, 630land said:

Someone eager for EV's said "oh, my wife and I can go shop for the hour that our EV is charging.."

 

Who has time to "shop"? Mall Stores are closing!

How about eating barbecue? My family and I had dinner at Angelo's this weekend while our Model S got charged at the Supercharger station next door.

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23 hours ago, rperez817 said:

That standard should be Tesla Supercharger. Elon Musk said last year that Tesla is very open to other automakers using its Supercharger network. But no other automakers have taken up the offer.

“We’ve always said that this is not intended to be a walled garden, and we’re happy to support other automakers and let them use our Supercharger stations. They would just need to pay, you know, share the costs proportionate to their vehicle usage, and they would need to be able to accept our charge rate or at least our connector, at least have an adapter to our connector. This is something that we are very open to, but so far, none of the other car makers have wanted to do this. It’s not because of opposition from us. This is not a walled garden.”

And how many manufacturers paid other manufacturers for the unleaded fuel neck design back in the 70's? Answer; none.

Elon wants to control fuel delivery plain and simple so that he can "enhance investor value" of Tesla to drive up the stock price. His design is nice, but by no means should other manufacturers be held hostage to a design that is only designed to fatten his wallet.

Hard pass.

Edited by twintornados

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