silvrsvt Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 Future products per the UAW agreement- All new Mustang Plus Derivatives? New Product at Ohio (Medium duty something or another?) New Engine at Dearborn? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Mustang derivatives could just mean GT350, GT500, GT350R etc. in the same way Porsche categorizes its GT3, GT2, and RS cars as sub models as opposed to trim levels of 911 thus making them "derivatives". I wouldn't read too much into it at this stage. The new product at Ohio is intriguing. That plant is not really setup for anything other than truck production so it points to finally a real replacement for E-series? Maybe? But it also says E-series will continue... so maybe a new cab forward truck? Seem unlikely but who knows... Edited November 6, 2019 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, bzcat said: Mustang derivatives could just mean GT350, GT500, GT350R etc. in the same way Porsche categorizes its GT3, GT2, and RS cars as sub models as opposed to trim levels of 911 thus making them "derivatives". I wouldn't read too much into it at this stage. That was my interpretation, but who knows outside of the glass house. 1 hour ago, bzcat said: The new product at Ohio is intriguing. That plant is not really setup for anything other than truck production so it points to finally a real replacement for E-series? Maybe? But it also says E-series will continue... so maybe a new cab forward truck? Seem unlikely but who knows... I'm also intrigued. I was under the impression it's almost impossible to build body on frame and unibody on the same line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 5:56 PM, fuzzymoomoo said: I'm also intrigued. I was under the impression it's almost impossible to build body on frame and unibody on the same line. Nope. They used to run unibody FWD Continentals, unibody RWD Lincoln LSes and RWD BOF Town Cars down the same final assembly line in Wixom. Different body shops obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, akirby said: Nope. They used to run unibody FWD Continentals, unibody RWD Lincoln LSes and RWD BOF Town Cars down the same final assembly line in Wixom. Different body shops obviously. Here I go again with this... Wixom was MASSIVE, didn't they have multiple final assembly lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Here I go again with this... Wixom was MASSIVE, didn't they have multiple final assembly lines? No - our Lincoln LS owners club took a tour and actually saw the vehicles on the same line one behind the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, akirby said: No - our Lincoln LS owners club took a tour and actually saw the vehicles on the same line one behind the other. So you mean to tell me that at one point they had the LS, T-Bird, Town Car and GT all on 1 line? Thats nuts. Edited December 4, 2019 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: So you mean to tell me that at one point they had the LS, T-Bird, Town Car and GT all on 1 line? Thats nuts. I think this video shows a Lincoln LS followed by a Lincoln Continental with a Lincoln Town Car sitting to the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Since its 2020, might as well update this: CY 2020 2021 F-150 and F-150 Hybrid 2021 Bronco Family-Spring 2020 unveiling 4 Door Bronco-Late Fall/Early Winter (possible Job 1 Dec 7) 2 Door Bronco-Late Fall/Early Winter (possible Job 1 Dec 7) Baby Bronco-Summer/Fall 2020 2021 Mustang Refresh/hybrid? Seems like I'm missing something here-the SD is technically a 2019 release since its in production already. CY 2021 2021 Mustang Mach E-Spring release 2022 F-150 BEV 2022 Fusion Crossover-Spring/Summer 2021? Baby Bronco\compact Pickup-Spring/Summer 2021? Transit Connect refresh-Spring/Summer 2021? Hermosillo production starts 2022 Bronco Sport Trac/Pickup-Might be shown off during Bronco launch? 2022 Ranger? Future Products past CY 2021 New Mustang on CD6 Mid sized CUV BEV for Lincoln and Ford Rivan based SUV/Pickup For Lincoln and Ford, respectively Small BEV based on VW platform (EU) Edge and Nautilus replacements "Affordable" Ford Product ? Edited January 6, 2020 by silvrsvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: 4 Door Bronco-Job 1 Dec 7 2 Door Bronco-Job 1 Dec 7 tentative. Nothing has been confirmed also, I thought F-150 BEV was due this year too.... Edited January 6, 2020 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: also, I thought F-150 BEV was due this year too.... Hybrid yes. I think the BEV is next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: tentative. Nothing has been confirmed also, I thought F-150 BEV was due this year too.... Fixed the Bronco, hopefully they start sooner then later-its basically a licence to print money for Ford for the first couple months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Fixed the Bronco, hopefully they start sooner then later-its basically a licence to print money for Ford for the first couple months Eh, if they wait longer, it'll put me in a better spot to get one haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I think a new EcoSport is due sometime in 2021-22 although it is just a guess. And Ford China will supposedly have a new Escort around the same time frame. BTW, Escort just went on sale in the Middle East GCC markets. So I believe the next gen is going to be a global product. https://www.me.ford.com/en/are/cars/escort/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Brazilian Ecosport indeed coming in 2021 as 2022 model year... Finally! Longe overdue https://quatrorodas.abril.com.br/noticias/segredo-nova-geracao-do-ford-ecosport-crescera-e-tera-traseira-de-mustang/ Other sources also claim there is the idea of producing in Bahia two other Suv/Cuv, possibly C2-based. I guess it has to do with the economical situation in Argentina. Others say the NG Ka could move to a subcompact Cuv, similar to current Ecosport, which will get bigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70 Stang Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 8:43 AM, silvrsvt said: Since its 2020, might as well update this: CY 2020 2021 F-150 and F-150 Hybrid 2021 Bronco Family-Spring 2020 unveiling 4 Door Bronco-Late Fall/Early Winter (possible Job 1 Dec 7) 2 Door Bronco-Late Fall/Early Winter (possible Job 1 Dec 7) Baby Bronco-Summer/Fall 2020 2021 Mustang Refresh/hybrid? Seems like I'm missing something here-the SD is technically a 2019 release since its in production already. CY 2021 2021 Mustang Mach E-Spring release 2022 F-150 BEV 2022 Fusion Crossover-Spring/Summer 2021? Baby Bronco\compact Pickup-Spring/Summer 2021? Transit Connect refresh-Spring/Summer 2021? Hermosillo production starts 2022 Bronco Sport Trac/Pickup-Might be shown off during Bronco launch? 2022 Ranger? Future Products past CY 2021 New Mustang on CD6 Mid sized CUV BEV for Lincoln and Ford Rivan based SUV/Pickup For Lincoln and Ford, respectively Small BEV based on VW platform (EU) Edge and Nautilus replacements "Affordable" Ford Product ? So 2022 NG Ranger is still a good possibility?.....in lieu of 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, 70 Stang said: So 2022 NG Ranger is still a good possibility?.....in lieu of 2023. If you looked closely-I'm talking about CY vs MY. If anything a late CY 2021 release isn't out of the cards, since the Bronco will hopefully be in production for almost a year then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70 Stang Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: If you looked closely-I'm talking about CY vs MY. If anything a late CY 2021 release isn't out of the cards, since the Bronco will hopefully be in production for almost a year then Awesome. That's what I'm hoping for.......CY 2022 is pushing it to get my next vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 22 hours ago, silvrsvt said: If you looked closely-I'm talking about CY vs MY. If anything a late CY 2021 release isn't out of the cards, since the Bronco will hopefully be in production for almost a year then If that's the case, MACH E is a 2020 release. Only the GT is 2021 spring release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 1:47 PM, bzcat said: If that's the case, MACH E is a 2020 release. Only the GT is 2021 spring release. Actually its a mixed bag: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a30420125/new-ford-mustang-mach-e-details/ The first Mustang Mach-Es are due to dealerships in late 2020, with the midrange First Edition and Premium models scheduled to arrive first. The GT, "California Route 1," and base-model "Select" won't go on sale until spring of 2021. Not to mention I wouldn't be suprised at delays, but then again the plant has been retooling since the fall and I'd expect them to fire it back up by May or so for production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-fusion-stormtrak-trademark-rumors/ https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2020/01/ford-trademarks-stormtrak-name-new-outback-rival-incoming.html Edited January 14, 2020 by passis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Seems like a weird name. Also, trademarking doesn't mean they'll use it, it just lets them put it aside if they do want to at some point. Guess that'd also allow them to reuse the Fusion name on a sedan later on if they decide to go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Sounds more like a trim line then an actual product name, but then again Fords CUV/SUV lineup Names came from The Ranger and F-150 trim names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-ford-mondeo-launch-2021-official-document-reveals?fbclid=IwAR3np2mnnrWdJ8Pmk5nfcE-Vo1kj0EOeB_kywAt_87CCnfCpBrX0-lxADHU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 8:54 PM, passis said: Brazilian Ecosport indeed coming in 2021 as 2022 model year... Finally! Longe overdue https://quatrorodas.abril.com.br/noticias/segredo-nova-geracao-do-ford-ecosport-crescera-e-tera-traseira-de-mustang/ Other sources also claim there is the idea of producing in Bahia two other Suv/Cuv, possibly C2-based. I guess it has to do with the economical situation in Argentina. Others say the NG Ka could move to a subcompact Cuv, similar to current Ecosport, which will get bigger. I think it could be Baby Bronco or a compact pickup based on C2 platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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