Stampede.Offroad Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) On 8/20/2019 at 7:43 PM, pffan1990 said: I have no problems with Ford using the heritage to sell the BEV but only for the styling, not name and ...horse logo. Just because you or some others like the idea doesn't mean I should just get over it. There was an uproar ... Uproar so huge that Ford had to backtrack on the name and even marketing. I do like and appreciate how they're calling it 'Mustang-inspired' but still need to be careful how they market it. ... just not ... anything with ...the name. The styling alone would allow anyone to associate the Mustang with it which would be okay. I have seen the official teaser picture of it with the back end. I love it!! . Reminds me of what they did before. Paid homage to the inspiration without co-opting the name. I guess the marketing dept isn't that subtle anymore ... Doing that to the Bronco name, when the models are completely different kinds of platforms makes even less sense. . Edited October 18, 2019 by Stampede.Offroad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I like that Ford is being aggressive with Mach E the name demands a certain level of respect and was never going to fall into Tesla’s hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Stampede.Offroad said: Reminds me of what they did before. Paid homage to the inspiration without co-opting the name. I guess the marketing dept isn't that subtle anymore ... Doing that to the Bronco name, when the models are completely different kinds of platforms makes even less sense. You actually got a good point regarding the marketing. I do like the Sprint edition with similar packaging and striping on the three cars in the ad you posted. I just thought of something. With possibility of Mustang being thoroughly updated for 2021MY, wouldn't it be nice if Ford bring back the Sprint package for the Mustang and share the new package with content and striping with other vehicles like say... the Mach-E. This would intensify the 'inspiration' of Mustang to the BEV. I know they are not doing this but interesting that the old ad you showed did have the inspiration of Mustang shared onto the Maverick and Pinto before the Mustang ironically entered the next generation based on the Pinto/Maverick platform. lol The more I hear of the Mach-E and closer it gets to the reveal, the more excited I actually am about the Mach-E. I suppose I can accept the running horse logo and the similar styling, but if it's only called and refer to as Ford Mach-E (with no name of Mustang anywhere on it) but has marketing with ties to Mustang's inspiration, and done the correct way, Ford will have a huge home run with the Mach-E. Ford knows they have to be careful with the Mach-E and how it's marketed to honor the fans. They saw the recent uproar with the original Mach 1 name. There is a video on YouTube done by a pro-Mustang YouTuber where he actually spoke with Jim Hackett and Hackett said there was a time where Ford was lost with the Mustang in terms of marketing and styling so they remember to know to do it right with Mustang. He drives a Shelby GT350 and his wife drives a Mustang GT convertible. He suggested the YouTuber to talk to Bill Ford who is the company's biggest Mustang fan. So I'm confident Ford is doing right with the Mach-E while honoring the Mustang's true purists. The reveal is pretty much a month away if not sooner since November 18th is the start of Press Days for the LA Auto Show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampede.Offroad Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 10 hours ago, pffan1990 said: You actually got a good point regarding the marketing. I do like the Sprint edition with similar packaging and striping on the three cars in the ad you posted. I just thought of something. With possibility of Mustang being thoroughly updated for 2021MY, wouldn't it be nice if Ford bring back the Sprint package for the Mustang and share the new package with content and striping with other vehicles like say... the Mach-E. This would intensify the 'inspiration' of Mustang to the BEV. I know they are not doing this but interesting that the old ad you showed did have the inspiration of Mustang shared onto the Maverick and Pinto before the Mustang ironically entered the next generation based on the Pinto/Maverick platform. lol The more I hear of the Mach-E and closer it gets to the reveal, the more excited I actually am about the Mach-E. I suppose I can accept the running horse logo and the similar styling, but if it's only called and refer to as Ford Mach-E (with no name of Mustang anywhere on it) but has marketing with ties to Mustang's inspiration, and done the correct way, Ford will have a huge home run with the Mach-E. Ford knows they have to be careful with the Mach-E and how it's marketed to honor the fans. They saw the recent uproar with the original Mach 1 name. There is a video on YouTube done by a pro-Mustang YouTuber where he actually spoke with Jim Hackett and Hackett said there was a time where Ford was lost with the Mustang in terms of marketing and styling so they remember to know to do it right with Mustang. He drives a Shelby GT350 and his wife drives a Mustang GT convertible. He suggested the YouTuber to talk to Bill Ford who is the company's biggest Mustang fan. So I'm confident Ford is doing right with the Mach-E while honoring the Mustang's true purists. The reveal is pretty much a month away if not sooner since November 18th is the start of Press Days for the LA Auto Show. I'm not convinced the same level of respect or homage will be paid to the Bronco. Which is odd for a company basing its future on similarly structured vehicles. The lure of cheap lazy advertising and name recognition might prove too much to resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 2:46 PM, Stampede.Offroad said: . Reminds me of what they did before. Paid homage to the inspiration without co-opting the name. I guess the marketing dept isn't that subtle anymore ... Doing that to the Bronco name, when the models are completely different kinds of platforms makes even less sense. . My mother had a Maverick Sprint that looked just like that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stampede.Offroad said: I'm not convinced the same level of respect or homage will be paid to the Bronco. Which is odd for a company basing its future on similarly structured vehicles. The lure of cheap lazy advertising and name recognition might prove too much to resist. You and lots of others are gonna be blown away when you see Bronco and realise the respect paid to the original design language. I’m glad it will be revealed soon as GM and Jeep have no idea... The brief on Bronco was that it is a Ford Iconic Vehicle like Mustang so take that as an indication of the reverence and respect being paid to the memory of what Bronco is to Ford and many people. Edited October 19, 2019 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: You and lots of others are gonna be blown away when you see Bronco and realise the respect paid to the original design language. I’m glad it will be revealed soon as GM and Jeep have no idea... The brief on Bronco was that it is a Ford Iconic Vehicle like Mustang so take that as an indication of the reverence and respect being paid to the memory of what Bronco is to Ford and many people. The problem is that there is a small vocal community that poo poo the upcoming Bronco because its not an exact reproduction of the 1st Gen or even the 1990s Bronco, no matter how good it is..I see it on some of the Bronco facebook pages/message groups. Typical knuckledraggers that want a V8 and manual locking hubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: The problem is that there is a small vocal community that poo poo the upcoming Bronco because its not an exact reproduction of the 1st Gen or even the 1990s Bronco, no matter how good it is..I see it on some of the Bronco facebook pages/message groups. Typical knuckledraggers that want a V8 and manual locking hubs. I've heard plenty of that about the Ranger as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, silvrsvt said: The problem is that there is a small vocal community that poo poo the upcoming Bronco because its not an exact reproduction of the 1st Gen or even the 1990s Bronco, no matter how good it is..I see it on some of the Bronco facebook pages/message groups. Typical knuckledraggers that want a V8 and manual locking hubs. They don't understand that the reason Ford took so long with Bronco is exactly because of those original Bronco owners and all the people who have owned Broncos. Ford wanted to fully capture what it was about that ownership that made the Bronco so special. They're drilling down and bitching about random CGIs that only bear a passing resemblance to what will be offered. Edited October 20, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampede.Offroad Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 13 hours ago, jpd80 said: You and lots of others are gonna be blown away when you see Bronco and realise the respect paid to the original design language. I’m glad it will be revealed soon as GM and Jeep have no idea... The brief on Bronco was that it is a Ford Iconic Vehicle like Mustang so take that as an indication of the reverence and respect being paid to the memory of what Bronco is to Ford and many people. With a typical development timeline I would expect to see some heavily camouflaged Bronco prototypes testing this winter, but a reveal being soon™ seems a bit unlikely. Considering that we haven't seen so much as a concept image, it wouldn't take much to know more than we currently do after a reveal for something else like the Maverick/baby/"yet to be named rugged off road small utility". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 33 minutes ago, Stampede.Offroad said: With a typical development timeline I would expect to see some heavily camouflaged Bronco prototypes testing this winter, but a reveal being soon™ seems a bit unlikely. Considering that we haven't seen so much as a concept image, it wouldn't take much to know more than we currently do after a reveal for something else like the Maverick/baby/"yet to be named rugged off road small utility". After the leak on Ranger, security on Bronco images went through the roof, it could well be that Ford runs long on silence , we still have all the UAW contract drama...I can tell you that first prototypes were made back in April, so they're out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 15 hours ago, silvrsvt said: The problem is that there is a small vocal community that poo poo the upcoming Bronco because its not an exact reproduction of the 1st Gen or even the 1990s Bronco, no matter how good it is..I see it on some of the Bronco facebook pages/message groups. Typical knuckledraggers that want a V8 and manual locking hubs. Nothing new here. There are some who hate the current Mustang, some who hate the C8 Corvette, some who hate the new iPhone. Mostly they sit in the corner and whine to themselves. Everybody else ignores them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 hours ago, mackinaw said: Nothing new here. There are some who hate the current Mustang, some who hate the C8 Corvette, some who hate the new iPhone. Mostly they sit in the corner and whine to themselves. Everybody else ignores them. Haters are gonna hate, worriers will worry but Ford is counting on enough buyers saying, yeah let's give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Autoblog-Fixed Edited October 21, 2019 by ANTAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: Autoblog-Fixed Quote Ford Mach E getting RWD trim and different battery options? Didn't we already know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Probably another recycled story, i just saw it and posted it here instead of creating a new thread for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, akirby said: Didn't we already know this? Yeah, it didn't present much info. And they were talking about "oh RWD is news instead of the "expected" FWD". Don't know why they expected FWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: Probably another recycled story, i just saw it and posted it here instead of creating a new thread for it. Was chastising them not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 At least people are talking about Ford heck, if GM can turn key-gate into a massive selling opportunity for dealers, then Ford’s dodgy product launches are just a bump in the road and will all die down in the run to Christmas the moment the press gets another carcass to munch on, Ford will be off the hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Ford is starting the drip feed leading up to the LA auto show https://www.ford.com/powertrains/battery-electric-vehicles/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Well,,, let's hope they fix the "find a charger near me" feature. Hard to believe there's no charging points within 300 miles of 60185 (western suburb of Chicago IL) HRG ford charging.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Well,,, let's hope they fix the "find a charger near me" feature. Hard to believe there's no charging points within 300 miles of 60185 (western suburb of Chicago IL) HRG ford charging.pdf I'm sure the site isn't fully functional/up to date yet. I agree it doesn't look good though for someone searching now. Edited October 23, 2019 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMoon Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 https://advocate.socialchorus.com/ford/blueovalnow/articles/mustang-inspired-all-electric-suv?415bd872=0d7a90d0&fbclid=IwAR3Pyg6mqwKZTZl8_fx3_YzU2U4ciFC8qEeSX55-EINYRAkGGIHRpuIo1TU Final shot from the video linked above: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rmc523 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Oooooo I'm excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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