Gurgeh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 hours ago, silvrsvt said: I think Cali's issues aren't exactly power generation, but maintenance of the areas around the power lines-i.e. cutting trees down around power lines and stuff like that. 5 hours ago, silvrsvt said: I think Cali's issues aren't exactly power generation, but maintenance of the areas around the power lines-i.e. cutting trees down around power lines and stuff like that. California is in a heap of hurt. PG&E is bankrupt due to wildfire issues. My guess they will become a ward of the state soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddysystem Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I haven't read all the posts but my take on styling is to give all models the GT grill to clean up that bland face and come up with a better one for the GT. Lose the busy wheels and put on something you'd actually put on a Mustang. The rest is fine. I like the blacked out C pillar roof merge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Think rugged / Bronco versus softer/Mustang and then add Lincoln as a third choice. flexible leasing Broncos and Mustang and Lincoln’s oh my.... Edited November 20, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJRivera Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I wish the GT looked like the mockups I saw on motor1.com..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I would rather it have a front end reminiscent of the GT350, not 500. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.I. Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, CJRivera said: I wish the GT looked like the mockups I saw on motor1.com..... Maybe for a future , more powerfull ,Shelby Mustang Mach E ... Ford is keeping its option under wraps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rmc523 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 17 hours ago, Deanh said: I have the brochure in front of me Grabber Blue IS avail on GT. And Also the First Edition line... Hm. I was going based on what they show on the configurator, which I realize isn't showing all the options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 3:40 PM, Deanh said: my only gripe...Ford needs some SERIOUS help in designing attractive wheels...that std GT wheel looks right off a Volkswagon GTI.... The aftermarket might have to come to the rescue with forged wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) I nabbed this photo today of the MACH E with its hatchback open And closed Edited November 21, 2019 by bzcat 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I wonder if it’ll have sequential tail lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.I. Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 10:32 PM, T-dubz said: a lot of people are complaining because sub branding is stupid and is an obvious marketing ploy. If this vehicle is as good as they claim, it could stand on its own and they would have created a new “icon” instead of riding the coat tails of one of their older “icons” that 90% of the public no longer care about. How many millennials and gen z do you see driving mustangs these days? I bet they are more interesting in Tesla with its technology than with mustang and it’s performance. They should have established some kind of brand/name plate that revolves around electric vehicles with good sporty design and technology. by the time the millennials and gen z are the main car buyers, it would be well established and an “icon” of its own. as many have said, if they wanted an electric mustang, just do it on the existing vehicle. No one would complain with that, well not as many lol. Marketing ploy? Of course! A very good marketing ploy. The interest in the Mustang Mach E on the internet is double that of the interest in the ID when VW launched it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, sullynd said: I wonder if it’ll have sequential tail lights. I read somewhere that it does. That's a great subtle way to tie it into Mustang IMO. Edited November 21, 2019 by fordmantpw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 hours ago, sullynd said: I wonder if it’ll have sequential tail lights. Yes, Both front and rear are amber sequential. https://time.com/5731344/ford-mustang-mach-e/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 This was the compliance car: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I kinda like the rear look they had going on in the bottom left here (and the left side of the lower picture) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Actually, I kind of like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Oh the Compliance car, I'm sure it would have been more efficient however, but it would have doomed Ford's EV future to trucks and vans only. The Mach E has probably the worst drag coefficient among all the EVs at .30 which seems to hit their range quite hard. And indeed the Mustang has really awesome lights with directional chase lights added to the directional chamber lights. All sorts of extra going on in those fixtures and it makes me happy. The most exciting aspect of car design to me right now is lighting design and Ford hasn't been great at it until this car. Edited November 21, 2019 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 7:37 AM, sullynd said: what does this mean for the f150 and transit electric models? I thought I had read somewhere that they were using the same batteries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Assimilator said: Oh the Compliance car, I'm sure it would have been more efficient however, but it would have doomed Ford's EV future to trucks and vans only. The Mach E has probably the worst drag coefficient among all the EVs at .30 which seems to hit their range quite hard. And indeed the Mustang has really awesome lights with directional chase lights added to the directional chamber lights. All sorts of extra going on in those fixtures and it makes me happy. The most exciting aspect of car design to me right now is lighting design and Ford hasn't been great at it until this car. Are you trying to say light "sweeps" out (like the Audis) on that horizontal portion of the taillights in addition to the regular sequential setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, rmc523 said: This was the compliance car: that literally looks like some cheesy 90’s concept car ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, T-dubz said: what does this mean for the f150 and transit electric models? I thought I had read somewhere that they were using the same batteries? Well. That could also mean they have X amount of allocation, and have already split it between F-150/Transit and that's what was available for Mach E after accounting for all the models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Well. That could also mean they have X amount of allocation, and have already split it between F-150/Transit and that's what was available for Mach E after accounting for all the models. It’s also a question of how quick they’ll hit 200k units and start to lose the tax credit. I believe they’re just over 100k units now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Assimilator said: Oh the Compliance car, I'm sure it would have been more efficient however, but it would have doomed Ford's EV future to trucks and vans only. The Mach E has probably the worst drag coefficient among all the EVs at .30 which seems to hit their range quite hard. And indeed the Mustang has really awesome lights with directional chase lights added to the directional chamber lights. All sorts of extra going on in those fixtures and it makes me happy. The most exciting aspect of car design to me right now is lighting design and Ford hasn't been great at it until this car. Agreed... if they had done the compliance car, Ford would have ceded the EV high ground permanently to Tesla and others. Look at how GM is doing with Bolt... It's a appliance car lover's dream but not an aspirational vehicle that people may want to buy. Edited November 21, 2019 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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