rmc523 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/04/2020-porsche-taycan-turbo-official-reveal-photos-specs/ After years of concepts, teasers, spy photos and rampant speculation, the 2020 Porsche Taycan is here. Although Porsche has been building hybrids for years now (including the 918 Spyder supercar), this is Porsche’s first foray into the world of EVs. It’s new and exciting ground for the German automaker, one many (including all of us here at Autoblog) are quite excited for. The Taycan Turbo and Turbo S will go on sale later this year, with other trims and a wagon variant based on the Mission E Cross Turismo concept following sometime in the next year. Yes, despite containing no internal combustion engine to attach a turbocharger, Porsche is using the Turbo and Turbo S names for the Taycan. Porsche says it's using the name so customers can equate it to top-level trims on its other vehicles, but we still think it’s a little dumb. In terms of size, the Taycan slots below the Panamera and is roughly the same size as a BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class or Tesla Model S. The design is nearly identical to the Mission E concept we saw a few years back. ... Both Taycan models are fully electric, sending power to both axles courtesy of a pair of permanently excited synchronous electric motors. These are expensive to use, but Porsche says the benefits — a compact design, good power density and good heat management — outweigh the increased cost. The front axle uses a single-speed gear set with an 8:1 ratio. The rear axle uses a two-speed transmission, an unusual trait for modern EVs. First gear is used for acceleration. The Taycan shifts around 62 mph, and top speed for both models is 162 mph. ... The Turbo and Turbo S both make 616 horsepower. Using an “overboost” function, the Taycan can make up to 670 horsepower, while the Turbo S sends up to 750 horsepower to the wheels. Peak torque is 626 and 774 pound-feet respectively. The torque split is fully variable between the two axles. The Taycan hits 60 mph in 3.0 seconds in the Turbo and 2.6 in the Turbo S. ... Porsche cites a range for the Taycan of 450 kilometers (280 miles), though no official EPA test number is available yet. Like most pure EVs, the Taycan’s lithium-ion battery pack is mounted on the floor in a “skateboard” setup. At the back, the battery forms a “T” shape with cutouts in the floor to increase backseat foot room. Total battery capacity is 93 kWh. The Taycan uses an 800-volt charging system as opposed to the 400-volt setup in most other EVs. This drastically reduces charging times, though the 270 kWh peak is still limited by the battery. Porsche expects that to improve to 400-500 kWh as technology improves. In optimal conditions, the Taycan can go from 5 percent to 80 percent in 22.5 minutes. That is limited by temperature and the charging infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 All that amazing tech and they stick an analog clock on top of the dash like it was a "oops...we forgot to put a clock in it." error...unless that was by design, then, meh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Wow. Just wow. Also wow: Quote Starting MSRP at launch for the Taycan Turbo is $153,510, though it will eventually drop back to $150,900. The Turbo S will sell for $187,610 at the outset, with the price eventually settling at $185,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, akirby said: Wow. Just wow. Also wow: I was just going to say I forgot to post the pricing. Yeah, the pricing is absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 The fact they are using the Turbo badging just seems ridiculous on an electric engine. As I said on Twitter, might as well just call it HEMI or DOHC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Anthony said: The fact they are using the Turbo badging just seems ridiculous on an electric engine. As I said on Twitter, might as well just call it HEMI or DOHC. What's next, somebody using this on a BEV? HRG Edited September 4, 2019 by HotRunrGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I was just going to say I forgot to post the pricing. Yeah, the pricing is absurd. Yeah, not very affordable. But I imagine Porsche will make a profit on it, unlike Tesla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, mackinaw said: Yeah, not very affordable. For comparison: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: What's next, somebody using this on a BEV? HRG Mustang-derived BEV feelings aside....at least that's just a logo, not a part that does not exist even on an electric engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, twintornados said: All that amazing tech and they stick an analog clock on top of the dash like it was a "oops...we forgot to put a clock in it." error...unless that was by design, then, meh.... Isn't that a lap timer? Their other cars have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, akirby said: For comparison: Wouldn't the Panamerica be a better comparison? Anyways-its roughly the same pricing as the Taycan-so the Taycan pricing is pretty amazing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Wouldn't the Panamerica be a better comparison? Anyways-its roughly the same pricing as the Taycan-so the Taycan pricing is pretty amazing too. You mean the Panamera? Probably. The Panamera Turbo starts at $153K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jcartwright99 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 For the folks that make real cheddar, 50k price difference won't matter. Model S performance 100k. 150K Porshe that's the new thing. 50k makes no difference. Think about how long the Model S has been around. Shiny new toy wins every time with those with deep pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, mackinaw said: Yeah, not very affordable. But I imagine Porsche will make a profit on it, unlike Tesla. The people that generally buy Porches generally aren't worried about "affordability" and for those that are, there's the Boxter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 $50,000 more is for buying into the Porsche brand, not value. All watches tell time, but there's Rolex too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 hours ago, MY93SHO said: Isn't that a lap timer? Their other cars have them. No, it is an analog clock that comes on all porsches. When you change the time through the steering wheel through the menu settings, the analog clock changes automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 16 hours ago, MY93SHO said: Isn't that a lap timer? Their other cars have them. Maybe, but all the amazing tech, yet the lap timer, if it is one, is analog?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, twintornados said: Maybe, but all the amazing tech, yet the lap timer, if it is one, is analog?? Take a look at this: http://www.porscheownersmanuals.com/2017-718-cayman-manual/17/234/Sport-Chrono-Stopwatch HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Take a look at this: http://www.porscheownersmanuals.com/2017-718-cayman-manual/17/234/Sport-Chrono-Stopwatch HRG You lost me at "analog"...that is just a "bone" being thrown to the "purists" and ranks right up there on the pathetic scale along with the "turbo" moniker.....dumb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, twintornados said: You lost me at "analog"...that is just a "bone" being thrown to the "purists" and ranks right up there on the pathetic scale along with the "turbo" moniker.....dumb! I'll guess that you didn't bother to look thru the manual that I posted the link to, that's not the only lap timer available to view. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: I'll guess that you didn't bother to look thru the manual that I posted the link to, that's not the only lap timer available to view. HRG Oh, no..I did, apparently you missed the fact that the lump of plastic on the top of the dash is, in my personal opinion, as useless as a pile of dog shit on the dash...which, again in my personal opinion, looks exactly as I just previously described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) The interior is quite excellent... love it. The exterior, ehhhhh. It's well done, and has a very high quality look to it.... but it's a very boring, uninspired quality. 4/10 WOW factor. Quote Starting MSRP at launch for the Taycan Turbo is $153,510, though it will eventually drop back to $150,900. The Turbo S will sell for $187,610 at the outset, with the price eventually settling at $185,000. Edited September 8, 2019 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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