ANTAUS Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Autoblog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonIvy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Love everything about it... except the price. I wish it didn't run so close to 5.0 territory. If I'm buying new I'd have a hard time not 'ponying' up the extra for the V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) I really don't know, the 2.7 EB V6 would have been perfect for this application especially since Camaro sounds to be getting the GM 2.7 I-4 T in the near future. Edited September 21, 2019 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 hours ago, jpd80 said: I really don't know, the 2.7 EB V6 would have been perfect for this application especially since Camaro sounds to be getting the GM 2.7 I-4 T in the near future. You’re right, the 2.7 would be great but is it really necessary when the 2.3 runs 0 to 60 in 4.5? That’s amazing for a 4 cylinder. It would demolish any V-8 Mustangs prior to the OHC 5.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Trader 10 said: You’re right, the 2.7 would be great but is it really necessary when the 2.3 runs 0 to 60 in 4.5? That’s amazing for a 4 cylinder. It would demolish any V-8 Mustangs prior to the OHC 5.0. And so does the V6 Camaro which has a decent performance advantage over the standard EB Mustang. I see the HP 2.3EB as being the needed upgrade to the underperforming base 2.3 EB. Ford could have skipped that and just used F150’s 2.7 EB for better perceived value. I don’t see this new package getting much sales traffic, they’re shooting for buyers that aren’t really there. Edited September 22, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 It might be better if the 3.0L EB with a hybrid option (Aviator) was a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if it was thought about. What does the 2.7 make 335hp compared to 330 in the HP 2.3? Is the juice worth the squeeze? It might be just me but I would consider this option to save a bit on gas and a lot in insurance compared to the Coyote. We'll see how it plays out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Hugh said: It might be better if the 3.0L EB with a hybrid option (Aviator) was a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if it was thought about. What does the 2.7 make 335hp compared to 330 in the HP 2.3? Is the juice worth the squeeze? It might be just me but I would consider this option to save a bit on gas and a lot in insurance compared to the Coyote. We'll see how it plays out. But it makes 380 lb-ft torque broadly spread across the power band. That's the big wow you get from the 2.7 V6 twin turbo. Don't get me wrong though, the 2.3 is a great engine, just about the best boosted 4-cylinder out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Gurgeh said: But it makes 380 lb-ft torque broadly spread across the power band. That's the big wow you get from the 2.7 V6 twin turbo. Don't get me wrong though, the 2.3 is a great engine, just about the best boosted 4-cylinder out there. I'm pretty sure it's also heavier. Which weight savings over the nose seems to really have made a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolScoop Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, jcartwright99 said: I'm pretty sure it's also heavier. Which weight savings over the nose seems to really have made a difference. Pretty sure there's a substantial weight difference... aluminum block Four vs iron block V6. My 03 Mach 1 with all aluminum DOHC 32 valve V8 only makes 305 hp and 320 lb-ft torque... things sure have changed! Edited September 22, 2019 by CoolScoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 jcart and cool, good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The block on the 2.7/3.0 is CGI so it's not all that heavy, also F150 2.7 EB makes 335 HP/400 lb ft so it would be a good 50 lb ft more than the current whiz bang 2.3 EB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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