silvrsvt Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 20 hours ago, MosheYehuda said: anything about a 4 door mustang? Technically the Mach E is a Mustang-just not called one-it has Mustang Badaging 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, fordmantpw said: That's only if you drive all 300 miles of that charge every day. Volt only has a 50 mile battery range, not 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 hours ago, K270 said: My boss bought a Volt about a year ago. I think he said he gets 300 miles per charge. It takes 12 hours to get to a full charge. It costs .18 cents an hour to charge. So, if you do 12 hour charges daily you're spending $2.18 a day to charge. Thats @ $64 a month. He might have meant 300 miles per gallon but Volt only has a 50 mile electric range. Bolt is 200, not 300. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 3:58 PM, akirby said: Why the hell are dealer Principals called Principals and not owners? I think...at least in my "diectors" case he prefers to stay under the radar...very humble family...absolutely zero ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, akirby said: Volt only has a 50 mile battery range, not 300. Ahhh, good point, didn't catch that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Nevermind. Made a mistake. Edited September 30, 2019 by pffan1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 5:27 PM, Deanh said: I know its third hand, but our Principal is REALLY low key and mellow...and he was excited....the Mach E is apparently going to be sold as an MSRP unit with Dealers getting re-imbursed ala A plan style. Fords version of Teslas sales model?... Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by this? On 9/26/2019 at 10:17 PM, silvrsvt said: As for the removable doors on the Bronco-is there some sort of harness disconnect, or its going to be all manual hand cranks etc ? I can't imagine they'd do hand cranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) RMC...apparently they will not be discounted and there wont be an invoice as such...Msrp IS invoice...then the dealers get re-imbursed a % from Ford...much like A plan...which I tentatively applaud...Honda markets a similar way...you are NOT allowed to advertise a vehicle less than invoice. Edited October 1, 2019 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Jeep has power windows, locks, etc in their removable doors. I’m sure Ford will too. Had a Wrangler rental the last two days. It was fun, hoping Bronco captures the fun while being a little more civilized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, sullynd said: Jeep has power windows, locks, etc in their removable doors. I’m sure Ford will too. Had a Wrangler rental the last two days. It was fun, hoping Bronco captures the fun while being a little more civilized. I think you just hit Fords game plan on the head.....that's FULLY what I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 8:23 AM, akirby said: He might have meant 300 miles per gallon but Volt only has a 50 mile electric range. Bolt is 200, not 300. Bolt has always been in the 230s. The 2020 model is close to 250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, MY93SHO said: Bolt has always been in the 230s. The 2020 model is close to 250. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Deanh said: RMC...apparently they will not be discounted and there wont be an invoice as such...Msrp IS invoice...then the dealers get re-imbursed a % from Ford...much like A plan...which I tentatively applaud...Honda markets a similar way...you are NOT allowed to advertise a vehicle less than invoice. Exactly what I was told. Plus... when it's unveiled on November 17th and the website goes live, customers can price the vehicle, place a reservation with a $500 deposit and select the dealership they want to take delivery from. The refundable deposit reserves their place in production but if they decide to change their designated dealership, the deposit is refunded by Ford and they lose their reserved production spot. First year production expected to be 40,000 vehicles with half designated for the 10 PZEV states. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, ice-capades said: Exactly what I was told. Plus... when it's unveiled on November 17th and the website goes live, customers can price the vehicle, place a reservation with a $500 deposit and select the dealership they want to take delivery from. The refundable deposit reserves their place in production but if they decide to change their designated dealership, the deposit is refunded by Ford and they lose their reserved production spot. First year production expected to be 40,000 vehicles with half designated for the 10 PZEV states. What vehicle are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, mackinaw said: What vehicle are you talking about? Mach-E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Deanh said: I think you just hit Fords game plan on the head.....that's FULLY what I expect. Yeah, a quick release wire harness/connector for locks/windows seems like a pretty easy solution nowadays. Even a quick release door should be doable with the right engineering. I haven't messed with a jeep up close before so I don't know what their design is like. The biggest hurdle would be something like airbags, which ford possibly has found a solution for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, probowler said: The biggest hurdle would be something like airbags, which ford possibly has found a solution for. Airbags aren't usually in the door. They're usually in the Seats and/or the roof rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 8 hours ago, probowler said: Yeah, a quick release wire harness/connector for locks/windows seems like a pretty easy solution nowadays. Even a quick release door should be doable with the right engineering. I haven't messed with a jeep up close before so I don't know what their design is like. The biggest hurdle would be something like airbags, which ford possibly has found a solution for. Dont even need wires. A contact on the door and a contact on the door frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, J-150 said: Dont even need wires. A contact on the door and a contact on the door frame Problem with contacts is when the door is open loss of power windows/locks and speakers would not be favorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, fordtech1 said: Problem with contacts is when the door is open loss of power windows/locks and speakers would not be favorable. And prone to failure after several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 50 minutes ago, akirby said: And prone to failure after several years. Reminds me of windstar sliding door contacts. By the way not sure how I got a double post but it can be deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, fordtech1 said: By the way not sure how I got a double post but it can be deleted. I don't see a double post. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 16 hours ago, Deanh said: RMC...apparently they will not be discounted and there wont be an invoice as such...Msrp IS invoice...then the dealers get re-imbursed a % from Ford...much like A plan...which I tentatively applaud...Honda markets a similar way...you are NOT allowed to advertise a vehicle less than invoice. Ah ok. Makes sense. 10 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Airbags aren't usually in the door. They're usually in the Seats and/or the roof rail. We did see a bunch of patents for "door" airbags (some weren't full doors) and such recently. But that also doesn't mean they're going to use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 21 hours ago, Deanh said: RMC...apparently they will not be discounted and there wont be an invoice as such...Msrp IS invoice...then the dealers get re-imbursed a % from Ford...much like A plan...which I tentatively applaud...Honda markets a similar way...you are NOT allowed to advertise a vehicle less than invoice. That's not entirely true of Honda. They can't publicly advertise a lower price on tv, radio, or in print. But they can advertise a low price on the cars themselves. Walk into a Honda store and see all the prices on the windshield lower than sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, blazerdude20 said: That's not entirely true of Honda. They can't publicly advertise a lower price on tv, radio, or in print. But they can advertise a low price on the cars themselves. Walk into a Honda store and see all the prices on the windshield lower than sticker. He said less than invoice, not less than sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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