blwnsmoke Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/02/ford-recalls-explorer-escape-f-series-super-duty/?yptr=yahoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 This is becoming a pattern lately...maybe they need to re-implement that Six Sigma initiative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Honestly, when does this shit stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 How do you have a steel issue? How does that not get discovered in random part testing? I'm starting to think Chicago is not capable of making a quality product. Keep reading awful QC of Explorer.I'm not sure why but if I were that plant manager I wouldn't get too comfortable....or maybe that's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 This is the exact reason why Henry Ford wanted to control the construction of every component of his vehicles....every recall points to a vendor of a component or part. Ford didn't make the axle, it was from a vendor Ford didn't make the seat back retainer, it was from a vendor Ford didn't make the harness, it was from a vendor seeing a pattern here....vendor makes it....but Ford owns it when something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, twintornados said: This is the exact reason why Henry Ford wanted to control the construction of every component of his vehicles....every recall points to a vendor of a component or part. Ford didn't make the axle, it was from a vendor Ford didn't make the seat back retainer, it was from a vendor Ford didn't make the harness, it was from a vendor seeing a pattern here....vendor makes it....but Ford owns it when something goes wrong. Yes, I do see a pattern. The harness not being secured doesn't sound like a supplier issue to me though. It's sounds like an assembly issue. I could totally be wrong but that is how I interpreted it. I'm wondering how much responsibility the vendor shoulders in these cases? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 7 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Honestly, when does this shit stop? When the manufacturers quit using substandard vendors and/or they quit squeezing the vendors so tight they cut corners to make a profit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Speaking from the vendor side, this is what happens when there is a continuing squeeze on pricing. To keep a contract one must continually reduce the cost per unit. One way is to offer a less expensive material, and I have seen it approved (probably without input from engineering). It is a constant race to the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, jcartwright99 said: Yes, I do see a pattern. The harness not being secured doesn't sound like a supplier issue to me though. It's sounds like an assembly issue. I could totally be wrong but that is how I interpreted it. I'm wondering how much responsibility the vendor shoulders in these cases? I would agree about the harness, but thinking that if the harness was not made correctly or the securing tab was either substandard or not placed correctly...lots of "wiggle room" to point fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 If money is the problem, then read my Aviation post in the Lounge forum. Ford is all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Joe771476 said: If money is the problem, then read my Aviation post in the Lounge forum. Ford is all done. It’s not that they don’t have the money or resources. They’re spending it on new products like Bronco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe771476 said: If money is the problem, then read my Aviation post in the Lounge forum. Ford is all done. Aviation post? Ford's getting back into planes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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