rmc523 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: The problem may be that they install them indoors, or the dealership has locked gates restricting access. They need to be accessible 24-7. HRG My local dealer put them out front in the guest parking area. 17 minutes ago, akirby said: Yes, but what are you doing to do at a dealership while waiting for your vehicle to charge? Then again I guess Tesla's chargers have the same issue unless they happen to be co-located with shopping, food or entertainment. I mean. What do you do at any charger? Dealers often have places around, depending on where of course. They don't have to be the entire network, but my point is just that you could rapidly expand any sort of charging network by doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, rmc523 said: My local dealer put them out front in the guest parking area. I mean. What do you do at any charger? Dealers often have places around, depending on where of course. They don't have to be the entire network, but my point is just that you could rapidly expand any sort of charging network by doing that. Oh I agree it's the right thing to do, just pointing out that they would work better if you could at least get something to eat or shop or watch a movie while it charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, akirby said: Oh I agree it's the right thing to do, just pointing out that they would work better if you could at least get something to eat or shop or watch a movie while it charged. Hm. Install cafes in the dealer? Pull people in to look at other models? Obviously not an option at all locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: Hm. Install cafes in the dealer? Pull people in to look at other models? Obviously not an option at all locations. Partner with Starbucks. They’re all over the freaking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Partner with Starbucks. They’re all over the freaking place. You ever been in a Starbucks? People get there at 7am, and NEVER LEAVE! Just a bunch of cheap-skates that can't afford their own WiFi. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, akirby said: Then again I guess Tesla's chargers have the same issue unless they happen to be co-located with shopping, food or entertainment. Tesla does a good job selecting sites for Superchargers that are near restaurants, shopping centers, resorts, hotels, theaters, casinos, etc. For example, the Supercharger location in Fort Worth is right next to Angelo's BBQ.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: Hm. Install cafes in the dealer? Pull people in to look at other models? Obviously not an option at all locations. Also not an option if the dealership is closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Partner with Starbucks. They’re all over the freaking place. And by the time you get your drink, you should have a nearly full charge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: And by the time you get your drink, you should have a nearly full charge! Takes me about 60 seconds. 90 if I walk slowly. (I order ahead with the app) Or 7 minutes if Becky grabs my drink by mistake cause she can't read the label...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, akirby said: Also not an option if the dealership is closed. Ok? Again, most dealers are near other businesses. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Ok? Again, most dealers are near other businesses. lol Only 2 of the 6 near me are within walking distance of anything. The rest are in a rural or commercial/industrial area with no shops or restaurants nearby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 9 hours ago, akirby said: Yes, but what are you doing to do at a dealership while waiting for your vehicle to charge? How about negotiating a deal to trade the EV for a nice ICE vehicle that doesn’t force you to waste half a day charging every time you want to get 150 miles down the road? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Trader 10 said: How about negotiating a deal to trade the EV for a nice ICE vehicle that doesn’t force you to waste half a day charging every time you want to get 150 miles down the road? Need. To. Update. Talking. Points. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 15 hours ago, akirby said: Takes me about 60 seconds. 90 if I walk slowly. (I order ahead with the app) Or 7 minutes if Becky grabs my drink by mistake cause she can't read the label...... I was mostly kidding. I order ahead as well, but when I stopped yesterday, the place was nuts with the parking lot completely packed and the drive through lined up around the building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: I was mostly kidding. I order ahead as well, but when I stopped yesterday, the place was nuts with the parking lot completely packed and the drive through lined up around the building. I wasn't joking about Becky. I stopped at my local SB and strangely my order wasn't ready (I placed it when I left home which is 6 minutes away and it's almost always ready by the time I get there). So I waited a minute and didn't see anything coming out, but there was a drink sitting there with Becky's name on it. I asked the guy if he had my drink in queue and he said I'm pretty sure I already made it. So I said I bet Becky has it. 30 seconds later Becky comes back in and says "I got the wrong drink". They were already making me a new one. Dammit Becky how hard is it to read the name on the cup? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, akirby said: Only 2 of the 6 near me are within walking distance of anything. The rest are in a rural or commercial/industrial area with no shops or restaurants nearby. Hm. Well, guess I'm used to being in busy city areas - South Florida is so developed in a small strip of available land, so everything is squished together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, akirby said: I wasn't joking about Becky. I stopped at my local SB and strangely my order wasn't ready (I placed it when I left home which is 6 minutes away and it's almost always ready by the time I get there). So I waited a minute and didn't see anything coming out, but there was a drink sitting there with Becky's name on it. I asked the guy if he had my drink in queue and he said I'm pretty sure I already made it. So I said I bet Becky has it. 30 seconds later Becky comes back in and says "I got the wrong drink". They were already making me a new one. Dammit Becky how hard is it to read the name on the cup? Basic white chicks amirite? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 6 hours ago, akirby said: I wasn't joking about Becky. I stopped at my local SB and strangely my order wasn't ready (I placed it when I left home which is 6 minutes away and it's almost always ready by the time I get there). So I waited a minute and didn't see anything coming out, but there was a drink sitting there with Becky's name on it. I asked the guy if he had my drink in queue and he said I'm pretty sure I already made it. So I said I bet Becky has it. 30 seconds later Becky comes back in and says "I got the wrong drink". They were already making me a new one. Dammit Becky how hard is it to read the name on the cup? Seriously! How hard is it!? The few times I order, I use the app on my phone. Well, it's logged in with my wife's account. They look at me funny when they say "drink for Melanie" and I pick it up. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: The few times I order, I use the app on my phone. Well, it's logged in with my wife's account. They look at me funny when they say "drink for Melanie" and I pick it up. ? That is strange since you're wearing high heels and makeup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhm5 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 "a Ford Connected Charge Station can fully power a vehicle overnight while they sleep" - ASFAIK at Plug-in, 240V NEMA 14-50 outlet, 7.7 kW Max Power Delivery Rate would equal 22 miles per hour for 120V it would be 4 miles per hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 1:13 PM, akirby said: That is strange since you're wearing high heels and makeup. Weren't you just chastising others for personal attacks? HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve557 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Hmm, let’s accelerate the change from gasoline powered cars to natural gas and coal powered ones. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Weren't you just chastising others for personal attacks? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Weren't you just chastising others for personal attacks? HRG Really? If that was a personal attack then I'm Bill Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 4 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Weren't you just chastising others for personal attacks? HRG Well, he does like my heals and makeup, so I took it as a compliment! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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