LHB Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 hours ago, IcemanTX said: I believe we test drove one with the 30 way adjustable seats. My wife would like the seats to be lower, but it is a bit too late for that unfortnately. You may want to make sure all 30 ways are functioning to spec, especially the limits on up/down, tilt and the in-out seat sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanTX Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 How do I test the 30 way seats on the limits up and down? Ask them to check it when it goes in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, IcemanTX said: How do I test the 30 way seats on the limits up and down? Ask them to check it when it goes in? Try a different one on the lot and see if it feels the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanTX Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) How do you all typically choose to lock your Aviators? Key fob? App? Panel on side of car? Some other way I don’t know about? We came from a GMC Acadia and that auto locked when you got a certain distance away with the key fob, but the Aviator does not have this feature (surprised - thought it was common). Edited September 18, 2020 by IcemanTX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On my Nautilus I just touch the door handle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanTX Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Touch the handle where exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 If it's like my Escape, there is a small square on the handle facing you. Once all doors are closed, you just touch the square. Don't grab the handle. Contact the square only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanTX Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 There is no square on the handle of the Aviator - just the handle on the inside and the lock on the pillar. Trying to figure out if I am missing something. Also, twice today when connected to CarPlay and in park when using the Phone as Key with my iPhone 11 Pro, the car displayed a message "No Key Detected". Has anyone else experienced this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, IcemanTX said: There is no square on the handle of the Aviator - just the handle on the inside and the lock on the pillar. Trying to figure out if I am missing something. Also, twice today when connected to CarPlay and in park when using the Phone as Key with my iPhone 11 Pro, the car displayed a message "No Key Detected". Has anyone else experienced this? On all other Ford/Lincolns there is a spot on the top or front of the door handle that you can touch and it will lock the vehicle. I think they moved it to the B pillar on the Aviator. You might also be able to hit the lock button on the inside of the door as you get out but I'm not sure how that works using PAK. Ford has never had an autolock feature like GM after you park it and walk away. It would be nice. But GM doesn't have the keypad and I'd much rather have the keypad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying68 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Never ceases to amaze me that there are dealers who don't take the time to explain and cover all the features on a new vehicle to customers. That should be a standard practice. When I bought my Explorer, the dealer went through all of the features with my wife, especially the infotainment, phone pairing stuff. When be bought our MkC the Lincoln dealer spent a good hour with her going over everything (Sync 3 was different than the MFT in the Explorer). The only new vehicle we bought where the dealer didn't do this was my Expedition. We really didn't need it, it had Sync 3 and pretty much all the same features as our Lincoln, plus I am pretty well aware of everything from looking through the owners manual prior to purchase. And yes on the Aviator there is a lock icon on the b-pillar, looks like a padlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying68 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Here is the Doors and Locks page from the owners manual. "Locking sensors are on both front doors. When the intelligent access key is within 3 ft (1 m) of your vehicle you can lock your vehicle by touching the locking sensor below the keyless entry keypad. Doing so causes a lock symbol to illuminate on the door window trim indicating your vehicle is locked and you can no longer release the door using the exterior door handle switches. Touching the locking sensor when the intelligent access key is not within 3 ft (1 m) causes the lock status to display, but does not lock the doors. Swipe across the locking sensor to display the current lock status of your vehicle. The lock status also displays when you open a door or when the lock status changes. Note: You cannot use the locking sensors to unlock your vehicle." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 5:25 AM, IcemanTX said: On Wed Sept 15, 2020 we purchased a 2020 Aviator after shopping for quite a while to replace our 2017 Acadia Denali. Initial impressions are mixed for one important reason - the 30 way seats and seat height. My wife and I test drove an Aviator about a month ago and we liked the car. However, my wife now says the seat sits too high and is too narrow. Im not going to get into why this came up after the purchase - there is nothing I can do about it now. There were some fit and finish issues they are going to address, but overall it is a very nice car. We have a red Reserve AWD with the 202A package and the convenience package. it’s the nicest car we have ever owned. Just wish the seat issue had come up before we signed the paperwork... Congrats on the new ride. I also found the Lincoln seats a little narrower then my 2017 Acadia SLT2 but adjusted to the Nautilus' 22 way seats just fine. I test drove all of the Lincoln's except the Navigator and thought the Nautilus had the widest seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 21 hours ago, IcemanTX said: How do I test the 30 way seats on the limits up and down? Ask them to check it when it goes in? I would ask the dealer to do it indicating the comfort issues you have with it ... 30 way adjustments should provide better comfort not less comfort (if working properly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Flying68 said: Never ceases to amaze me that there are dealers who don't take the time to explain and cover all the features on a new vehicle to customers. That should be a standard practice. When I bought my Explorer, the dealer went through all of the features with my wife, especially the infotainment, phone pairing stuff. When be bought our MkC the Lincoln dealer spent a good hour with her going over everything (Sync 3 was different than the MFT in the Explorer). The only new vehicle we bought where the dealer didn't do this was my Expedition. We really didn't need it, it had Sync 3 and pretty much all the same features as our Lincoln, plus I am pretty well aware of everything from looking through the owners manual prior to purchase. And yes on the Aviator there is a lock icon on the b-pillar, looks like a padlock. With all the technology and options on these vehicles today the individuals retention from a 15-30 minute session upon delivery is not going to be enough ... especially if you are totally new to FoMoCo vehicles & tech implementation. I’d recommend downloading the owners manual and keep a current version on pad or pc for reference & browsing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampagex7 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 11:00 PM, IcemanTX said: How do you all typically choose to lock your Aviators? Key fob? App? Panel on side of car? Some other way I don’t know about? We came from a GMC Acadia and that auto locked when you got a certain distance away with the key fob, but the Aviator does not have this feature (surprised - thought it was common). Congrats on your new Aviator! To lock the vehicle from outside without using the fob/PAAK you need to have your fob/phone in your pocket (or otherwise within 3ft) then push the little lock symbol for 2 sec (looks like a padlock) on the driver’s door pillar right below the numeric keypad. (See photos below). My experience has been this can sometimes be tricky as you have to press it with your finger as flat as possible and cantered on the icon to activate it. Alternatively you can also press the 7/8 and 9/0 numbers simultaneously for 2 sec on the number pad. Front Passenger door has the lock icon as well. When you are pressing the lock icon there is a little red dot that lights up above the 1/2 to confirm it recognizes you pressing your finger on it. (See photos) You can of course lock it the “old fashioned” way by pressing the lock button on your fob or the lock button in the Lincoln app if using PAAK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampagex7 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/18/2020 at 9:27 AM, IcemanTX said: Also, twice today when connected to CarPlay and in park when using the Phone as Key with my iPhone 11 Pro, the car displayed a message "No Key Detected". Has anyone else experienced this? Yes I get this once in a while on my Aviator GT and I’m using PAAK on mine with iPhone 11. I find it depends on where I keep my phone if it’s in my left pocket sometimes right after I start the car I get the “No key“ message but then it goes away after minute. If I keep the phone out of pocket, resting on center console or in the cup holder it’s no problem. What did the trick for me is I got a belt clip holster for my phone and just clip it to my belt or pants and never have that problem anymore so the phone gets better Bluetooth signal to the PAAK system. I was told by Lincoln concierge that PAAK uses Bluetooth low energy mode so it’s not as powerful as regular Bluetooth communication and I guess more susceptible to interference if your phone is covered or in your pocket/jacket/etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanTX Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Thanks everyone for the replies. Another quick one - has anyone noticed this with the sunglasses holder? It is not flush and nothing is in it the holder. Does not look correct to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, IcemanTX said: Thanks everyone for the replies. Another quick one - has anyone noticed this with the sunglasses holder? It is not flush and nothing is in it the holder. Does not look correct to me... Oh my that looks terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanTX Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The dealer will be fixing the sunglasses holder as well. Hopefully nothing else comes up. The PAAK is a little flakey though with the "no key detected" message. My wife said she will just use the regular key since she does not trust it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/18/2020 at 7:36 AM, akirby said: But GM doesn't have the keypad and I'd much rather have the keypad. The 2020 GMC Acadia has this as an option: RDI NEW! LPO, Keyless Entry Keypad with all-new vertical design, 5-digit programmable keypad located on driverside B-pillar If I couldn't negotiate the purchase of a BL Nautilus (which I did) I was going to order a 2020 Acadia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, T hawker said: The 2020 GMC Acadia has this as an option: RDI NEW! LPO, Keyless Entry Keypad with all-new vertical design, 5-digit programmable keypad located on driverside B-pillar So it's only taken them what......20 years to catch up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, akirby said: So it's only taken them what......20 years to catch up? Steady Allen. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, bbf2530 said: Steady Allen. ? I can already see the commercials where they will tout it as the greatest thing since sliced bread and pretend they invented it. Just like MyKey and the "manstep". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, akirby said: I can already see the commercials where they will tout it as the greatest thing since sliced bread and pretend they invented it. Just like MyKey and the "manstep". I agree, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, akirby said: So it's only taken them what......20 years to catch up? Haha, yes. The first car i had with the keypad entry was my 1982 Thunderbird Heritage . Have always loved that feature. Edited September 24, 2020 by T hawker add attachment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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