Deanh Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, tbone said: This is what I’m hoping for, which will get me to trade. The Ram TRX is supposed to be getting another motor as well that is 500+ hp, so Ford will need to respond to that in some way too. not all about the engine...no doubt in my mind Dodge couldn't engineer a truck anywhere close to how well buttoned down the Raptor is...they literally NAILED that truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Deanh said: Which would be an extremely low volume HALO vehicle that would most likely retail for 2 -3 times that of a Bronco...that's like comparing a Fusion to a GT500..... So? It's still cool. Why can't there be a Bronco equivalent to the GT500? If Bronco is going to be a Brand equal to the Mustang, I think they deserve a Halo model too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, rmc523 said: What does Challenger have to do with Bronco? Again, what does that have to do with Bronco? Are they putting a Hellcat into the Wrangler? No. You seriously lack imagination, Sad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, probowler said: So? It's still cool. Why can't there be a Bronco equivalent to the GT500? If Bronco is going to be a Brand equal to the Mustang, I think they deserve a Halo model too! Who's to say that one won't appear someday. But forget ICE power, most likely it will have four electric motors, one for each wheel. Instant torque and a 0-60 time of two seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I can only only describe the drivetrain as weaker than what was installed in the amc pacer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Deanh said: not all about the engine...no doubt in my mind Dodge couldn't engineer a truck anywhere close to how well buttoned down the Raptor is...they literally NAILED that truck. The Raptor is a fantastic truck, but I have been wanting more power out of it. I was thinking there were going to be some factory upgrades but they never materialized. With that said, you could build a Ram Raptor competitor right now out of the Mopar catalog, unless it has been discontinued. They have the Ram Runner package that is comparable and quite competent. A comparison was done with the old Raptor back in day, which the Raptor won, but the Ram was competitive. I never want to underestimate the competition. https://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/f-150/2012/2012-ford-f-150-svt-raptor-mopar-ram-runner/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, snooter said: I can only only describe the drivetrain as weaker than what was installed in the amc pacer I have no idea how you could reach that conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, snooter said: I can only only describe the drivetrain as weaker than what was installed in the amc pacer 44 minutes ago, tbone said: I have no idea how you could reach that conclusion. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, probowler said: You seriously lack imagination, Sad! Has nothing to do with imagination. Maybe they should put a jet turbine in Bronco, then it'd be SOOOOOO fast. It's being realistic and realizing what options are legitimately on the table. Do I think a 5.0 Bronco would be awesome? Sure, I love my 5.0. Do I think it's going to Will it happen? Not at all, so why bother discussing something that's not within the realm of possibility? Edited June 23, 2020 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 53 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Has nothing to do with imagination. Maybe they should put a jet turbine in Bronco, then it'd be SOOOOOO fast. It's being realistic and realizing what options are legitimately on the table. Do I think a 5.0 Bronco would be awesome? Sure, I love my 5.0. Do I think it's going to Will it happen? Not at all, so why bother discussing something that's not within the realm of possibility? Ok now you're talking! Maybe not an actual Jet, but they have made a flying Bronco! To answer your question, it's simple... in the off-chance that Ford or their research monkeys visits this and other boards, I want them to see that some of us DO want a V8 option so that if it is eventually possible via the next model refresh or a bigger full-size bronco, they remember the demand and don't forget about us V8 boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, probowler said: Ok now you're talking! Maybe not an actual Jet, but they have made a flying Bronco! To answer your question, it's simple... in the off-chance that Ford or their research monkeys visits this and other boards, I want them to see that some of us DO want a V8 option so that if it is eventually possible via the next model refresh or a bigger full-size bronco, they remember the demand and don't forget about us V8 boys You really like to beat that dead horse, don’t you? If you want a V8 in your Bronco, then mod away. I bet if you did, TFL might do a story on you. Otherwise, get a Landcruiser and be done with it. Stop with this nonsense, and it is total nonsense. Ford isn’t Burger King, and isn’t going to make it your way! Edited June 23, 2020 by jcartwright99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, jcartwright99 said: You really like to beat that dead horse, don’t you? If you want a V8 in your Bronco, then mod away. I bet if you did, TFL might do a story on you. Otherwise, get a Landcruiser and be done with it. Stop with this nonsense, and it is total nonsense. Ford isn’t Burger King, and isn’t going to make it your way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 hours ago, tbone said: The Raptor is a fantastic truck, but I have been wanting more power out of it. I was thinking there were going to be some factory upgrades but they never materialized. With that said, you could build a Ram Raptor competitor right now out of the Mopar catalog, unless it has been discontinued. They have the Ram Runner package that is comparable and quite competent. A comparison was done with the old Raptor back in day, which the Raptor won, but the Ram was competitive. I never want to underestimate the competition. https://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/f-150/2012/2012-ford-f-150-svt-raptor-mopar-ram-runner/amp/ catalog trucks aren't exactly production are they...and Id say a majority of Raptor owners are quite happy with a 450 horsepower engine that can hit 60 in around six seconds....and that's with a HUGE disadvantage with wheels and tires...maybe you guys can continue harping....but your forgetting one thing....more powere usually equates to higher costs...and even now the Raptor borders on being a Rich boys toy....and that's at MSRP... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 16 hours ago, probowler said: So? It's still cool. Why can't there be a Bronco equivalent to the GT500? If Bronco is going to be a Brand equal to the Mustang, I think they deserve a Halo model too! cool doesn't pay Fords bill...just strokes the weathys egos...the Bronco R will be quite sufficient if I were to guess...an d if it doesn't have a V8....they are more interested in RTOI than a small percentage of peoples wet dreams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 15 hours ago, snooter said: I can only only describe the drivetrain as weaker than what was installed in the amc pacer The most powerful Pacer built was the 78-79 model with an available heavily “smogged” 304 V8. It made a whopping 125 HP. Most Pacers were sold with straight 6s that made from 90-120 HP depending on the year and size. Transmissions offered were a 3 and 4 speed manual or a 3 speed automatic. Are you telling us that the Bronco will have between 90-125 HP and offer 3 and 4 speed transmissions? You were already wrong about there being no 2 door model so think you’ll be wrong about this too. You claim to hate this vehicle more then just about anything else ever built, but you keep commenting about it and following this thread. What is wrong with you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, 2005Explorer said: The most powerful Pacer built was the 78-79 model with an available heavily “smogged” 304 V8. It made a whopping 125 HP. Most Pacers were sold with straight 6s that made from 90-120 HP depending on the year and size. Transmissions offered were a 3 and 4 speed manual or a 3 speed automatic. Are you telling us that the Bronco will have between 90-125 HP and offer 3 and 4 speed transmissions? You were already wrong about there being no 2 door model so think you’ll be wrong about this too. You claim to hate this vehicle more then just about anything else ever built, but you keep commenting about it and following this thread. What is wrong with you? Don't feed the troll 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Deanh said: catalog trucks aren't exactly production are they...and Id say a majority of Raptor owners are quite happy with a 450 horsepower engine that can hit 60 in around six seconds....and that's with a HUGE disadvantage with wheels and tires...maybe you guys can continue harping....but your forgetting one thing....more powere usually equates to higher costs...and even now the Raptor borders on being a Rich boys toy....and that's at MSRP... I understand a catalog truck is not a production truck, I was only mentioning it to point out that Ram has a competent off road package which could subsequently be converted into a production truck. Please don’t misunderstand, I like my Raptor a lot, other than the lack of V8 sound, and I certainly don’t think it is underpowered, but at the same time I would also like a little more power. By all accounts the competition is coming after the Raptor with substantial engine packages that will require a response from Ford, which I will likely benefit from. And don’t confuse me with those that are complaining about the 4 cylinder in the Bronco/Ranger, I’m not in that camp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, tbone said: I understand a catalog truck is not a production truck, I was only mentioning it to point out that Ram has a competent off road package which could subsequently be converted into a production truck. Please don’t misunderstand, I like my Raptor a lot, other than the lack of V8 sound, and I certainly don’t think it is underpowered, but at the same time I would also like a little more power. By all accounts the competition is coming after the Raptor with substantial engine packages that will require a response from Ford, which I will likely benefit from. And don’t confuse me with those that are complaining about the 4 cylinder in the Bronco/Ranger, I’m not in that camp. problem is at what cost...I heard the GT500 engine in the Raptor...that's insane...and I stand by my catalog truck statement...you pour the same money into a Raptor with catalog parts...game over for the Ram....we had a Raptor here in service a while ago...guy had spent $250k...…………..INSANE Edited June 24, 2020 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, 2005Explorer said: The most powerful Pacer built was the 78-79 model with an available heavily “smogged” 304 V8. It made a whopping 125 HP. Most Pacers were sold with straight 6s that made from 90-120 HP depending on the year and size. Transmissions offered were a 3 and 4 speed manual or a 3 speed automatic. Are you telling us that the Bronco will have between 90-125 HP and offer 3 and 4 speed transmissions? You were already wrong about there being no 2 door model so think you’ll be wrong about this too. You claim to hate this vehicle more then just about anything else ever built, but you keep commenting about it and following this thread. What is wrong with you? He's an attention whore who thinks he's witty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Deanh said: problem is at what cost...I heard the GT engine in the Raptor...that's insane...and I stand by my catalog truck statement...you pour the same money into a Raptor with catalog parts...game over for the Ram....we had a Raptor here in service a while ago...guy had spent $250k...…………..INSANE Yes that is quite insane. I wouldn’t want to spend much more than I already have so hard to say where those things will be priced at, but it does appear they are coming so we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 Even though it has camo-you can see some more details-of interest is the thing in the middle of the front of the hood and how the rearview mirrors are done...with an antenna sticking out one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavien Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The black thing on the front side of the hood looks like a shadow from a flag or some other object in front of the Bronco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolScoop Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Mirror mount location makes sense for removable doors. Offset antenna may be to clear something long tied to roof rack when using those front fender hoops. The billet aluminum push bumper with numerous drilled holes is a nice touch, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Even though it has camo-you can see some more details-of interest is the thing in the middle of the front of the hood and how the rearview mirrors are done...with an antenna sticking out one of them I really want to like it - I just can’t get past that front bumper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Trader 10 said: I really want to like it - I just can’t get past that front bumper. That's not the actual bumper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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