jcartwright99 330 Report post Posted Monday at 10:43 PM This is a bit more in depth as far as performance and handling (but not much else). Interesting to see they got better performance numbers than they did the first time. Aviator GT Car and Driver Review Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assimilator 669 Report post Posted Monday at 11:32 PM (edited) I've been waiting to hear more about this version. On paper this product sounds exciting, but it also never made sense since the entire premise of the vehicle is really about charging the boost mode. It's not more fuel efficient and it's not particuarly fun to drive this giant vehicle on the weak hybrid motor alone to get a few miles of EV-only range. I'm not entirely shocked they don't like this vehicle, but I have a feeling it was meant to be driven more relaxed than the power numbers indicate. I don't really think this product makes any sense, if I'm going to bother plugging my car in, it really needs to be worthwhile and that's not the case here. A PHEV Escape or Corsair....sure. They aren't fun, but it's starting to look like Ford has some work to do on making Hybrids fun and that's turning out to be the big disappointment for me so far. Edited Monday at 11:38 PM by Assimilator 1 rperez817 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby 8,653 Report post Posted Tuesday at 12:09 AM I’d like to see how it performs against other similar luxury phevs. They seem to have similar specs. I wonder if there is a limitation on motor size because it fits in the 10r80 housing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoolScoop 69 Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:04 AM (edited) Their review has far more inconsistencies than their claimed GT performance: 27 photos and all of them are the same regular GT, not a Black Label GT as tested and listed in their chart; they fail to detail what tests if any were conducted by starting out with a fully charged battery or what driving modes were used; they neglect to state the test vehicle(s) was still a pre or early production unit with no GTs delivered yet; their EPA Ratings are incorrect, the actual ratings from the window stickers are: Gasoline only - 23 MPG combined, Electric + Gas - 56 MPGe combined (with 2.6 hour charge @ 240V), Electric range - 21 miles, Total range - 460 miles, Annual fuel cost - $1500 based on 15000 miles @ $2.70 per Gallon and $0.13 per KW-hr. The whole write-up seems hurried and brief with no detail and they didn't even bother to take a couple photos of the actual Black Label they ended up testing... or did they just think it was a Black Label?? Edited Tuesday at 02:36 AM by CoolScoop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustangchief 114 Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:28 PM This is another one of those "fake" media stories. It appears they plagiarized from MT SoY tests. Just a bunch of opiniated sound bites from a pre production model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rperez817 378 Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:59 PM Thanks for sharing jcartwright99 sir. No surprise to read about the flaws in Ford's half baked P2 hybrid powertrain in Aviator Grand Touring. When Car and Driver tested Explorer hybrid, which has the same hybrid architecture, they said "the hybrid's lack of refinement is a letdown". For customers interested in a Ford hybrid vehicle, it's best to stick with the tried and true, Aisin based power split design in Escape, Corsair, and Fusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby 8,653 Report post Posted Tuesday at 03:03 PM 3 minutes ago, rperez817 said: Ford's half baked P2 hybrid powertrain You're such a troll. 1 mustangchief reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites