GM/Cruise Origin Autonomous Pod Thingy Shown

[akirby]

52 minutes ago, rperez817 said:

 

GM Cruise has been doing extensive real world testing in San Francisco over the past year and continues to do so. See the timeline a few posts up.

That’s the problem - real world testing.  Not laboratory testing,  There should be a test regimen to ensure the software handles border conditions, sensor failures and other dangerous conditions before it’s allowed to do “real world” testing.

 

We all see how Tesla’s autopilot has handled real world testing.  Anyone who has ever done software for a living (and that includes me) can tell you how dangerous this is.

[fordmantpw]

26 minutes ago, akirby said:

That’s the problem - real world testing.  Not laboratory testing,  There should be a test regimen to ensure the software handles border conditions, sensor failures and other dangerous conditions before it’s allowed to do “real world” testing.

 

We all see how Tesla’s autopilot has handled real world testing.  Anyone who has ever done software for a living (and that includes me) can tell you how dangerous this is.

 

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[rperez817]

13 hours ago, akirby said:

That’s the problem - real world testing.  Not laboratory testing, 

 

Both real world testing and laboratory testing are essential to validate autonomous vehicle functionality and ultimately allow businesses and governments to widely deploy AV products and services in a timely manner. In the U.S., NHTSA has provided guidance on the following. See attachment for details.

• system safety considerations
• defining operational design domains
• object and event detection and response
• fallback strategies
• validation methods
• cybersecurity
• post-crash behavior 
• data recording
• consumer education and training
• regulatory roles and best practices at the federal and state levels 

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[TexasRedneck]

My business IT guy is shaking his head over all this.  He points out that NASA - nor NSA - has been 100% successful in stopping hackers, who crack systems just to say they did.  Now, give someone an axe to grind - or terroristic tendencies - and this could turn into a nightmare no one can imagine.  His opinion is it isn't "if" - it's "WHEN".  And as already noted...people puking, boarding sick - even just the run-of-the-mill vandalism....I don't think it's going to end well, but we'll see.

[rperez817]

6 hours ago, TexasRedneck said:

My business IT guy is shaking his head over all this.  He points out that NASA - nor NSA - has been 100% successful in stopping hackers, who crack systems just to say they did.  Now, give someone an axe to grind - or terroristic tendencies - and this could turn into a nightmare no one can imagine.  His opinion is it isn't "if" - it's "WHEN".  And as already noted...people puking, boarding sick - even just the run-of-the-mill vandalism....I don't think it's going to end well, but we'll see.

 

The 2 engineers who became world famous for hacking a Jeep Cherokee 6 years ago and demonstrating how they did it at a Black Hat conference, Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek, work at GM Cruise now. Here is a video where Kari Byron (cast member from the TV Show Mythbusters) interviews them about cybersecurity for GM Cruise vehicles.

 

 

[TexasRedneck]

On 11/11/2021 at 5:12 PM, rperez817 said:

 

The 2 engineers who became world famous for hacking a Jeep Cherokee 6 years ago and demonstrating how they did it at a Black Hat conference, Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek, work at GM Cruise now. Here is a video where Kari Byron (cast member from the TV Show Mythbusters) interviews them about cybersecurity for GM Cruise vehicles.

 

 

 

My IT guy just stopped laughing.....as a registered "White Hat", he knows his way around things - not only is it going to be possible, it already is on several different levels.  In his words, "If it connects, it can be hacked."  

[rperez817]

On 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM, rperez817 said:

Updates about GM Cruise and Cruise Origin timeline.

 

• 2021, continuation of real world testing that began last year in San Francisco
• Late 2021, commercialization of driverless ride hailing services in San Francisco and driverless goods delivery in Phoenix will get underway
• 2022, expansion of early commercialization phase
• Late 2022 - Early 2023, start of production for Cruise Origin at GM's Factory Zero in Detroit/Hamtramck
• 2023 - 2025, expansion of AV products and services including ability to retrofit GM cars and trucks with autonomous capabilities

 

On Thursday, June 2, 2022,  California's Public Utilities Commission granted GM a permit to operate a commercial taxi service for the general public using 100% autonomous Chevy Bolts from its Cruise subsidiary, with no human safety driver. This makes GM the first company in the world to offer such a service. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2022/06/02/gm-cruise-approved-california-driverless-taxis/7487221001/

 

Current restrictions.

• Maximum speed of 30 mph
• Hours of 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. daily
• When weather conditions do not include heavy rain, heavy fog, heavy smoke, hail, sleet, or snow

[rperez817]

GM Cruise is now expanding its Level 4 autonomous robotaxi service to Austin, Texas and Phoenix, Arizona. GM expects that by 2025, its Cruise business unit will reach $1 billion in annual revenue. GM's self-driving car business Cruise expands to 2 more cities (freep.com)

 

Ford is already testing its own robotaxi service in Austin through its Argo AI subsidiary, so GM's announcement should make for a good competition.