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Ford needs to do one more thing by giving the customer a no cost option to equip the XLT Sports package with a dual injection 3.3 liter  or 3.5 liter naturally asperated V6.

 

the explorers would then start flying off the dealer lots!

edselford

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1 hour ago, edselford said:

Ford needs to do one more thing by giving the customer a no cost option to equip the XLT Sports package with a dual injection 3.3 liter  or 3.5 liter naturally asperated V6.

 

Uh no....both engines don't offer any improvements to the Ecoboost I4 it has already....

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11 hours ago, edselford said:

Ford needs to do one more thing by giving the customer a no cost option to equip the XLT Sports package with a dual injection 3.3 liter  or 3.5 liter naturally asperated V6.

 

the explorers would then start flying off the dealer lots!

edselford

 

What??  You realize the 2.3 is rated quite a bit higher than the 3.5 that was in the 5th gen?  

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10 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said:

 

What??  You realize the 2.3 is rated quite a bit higher than the 3.5 that was in the 5th gen?  

 

Sometimes it's not all about the numbers. Sometimes, it's perception about the technology. After my recent experience, I'm not sure I'll buy another EB.  It would be a shame if I have to look at another brand.

 

HRG

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11 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said:

 

Sometimes it's not all about the numbers. Sometimes, it's perception about the technology. After my recent experience, I'm not sure I'll buy another EB.  It would be a shame if I have to look at another brand.

 

HRG

 

How many 2.0, 2.3, 2.7, 3.0 and 3.5s are out there?  Just because one has had an issue doesnt mean the hundreds of thousands all have it.  Everyone on here should know that by now.

 

How about all the blown up 3.5s with the internal water pump that leaks all their coolant into the engine?

 

I would sell my 2020 ST in a heartbeat if they offered the 5.0 in it.  That V8 sound is really the only thing missing out of the current ST.

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4 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said:

I would sell my 2020 ST in a heartbeat if they offered the 5.0 in it.  That V8 sound is really the only thing missing out of the current ST.

 

I rest my case. In your defense of the EB's, even you would replace yours with a naturally-aspirated V8 of greater displacement.

 

Done. HRG

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I think we are saying the same thing. Not everyone wants ecoboost!  Why haven’t the other OEM’s gone that way? GM, Toyota Kia Hyundai on similar sized vehicles?

Your idea of a V8 is a great idea. Maybe it could be the new 4.8 liter V8 we read about on the new 2021 F150?

We could call the V8 the Explorer SST

edselford

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On 2/13/2020 at 8:43 AM, HotRunrGuy said:

 

I rest my case. In your defense of the EB's, even you would replace yours with a naturally-aspirated V8 of greater displacement.

 

Done. HRG

 

There is nothing wrong with the EB.  Your point is invalid.  A NA 3.5 was pushing 290hp, 253tq and was terrible off the line really requiring you to rev the crap out of it.

 

The 3.0 is 400/415, HUGE difference.. a NA 3.5 cant compete whatsoever.

 

And yes,I'd love the 5.0..  460hp, 420tq and can easily throw a SC on it..  and to add that roar.  That isnt knocking the EB at all.  You wont get a v8 roar out of a NA 3.5 lol..  so again, your point is completely invalid with what I said.

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14 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said:

 

There is nothing wrong with the EB.  Your point is invalid.  A NA 3.5 was pushing 290hp, 253tq and was terrible off the line really requiring you to rev the crap out of it.

 

The 3.0 is 400/415, HUGE difference.. a NA 3.5 cant compete whatsoever.

 

And yes,I'd love the 5.0..  460hp, 420tq and can easily throw a SC on it..  and to add that roar.  That isnt knocking the EB at all.  You wont get a v8 roar out of a NA 3.5 lol..  so again, your point is completely invalid with what I said.

 

I'm happy that Ford currently offers a product that you're willing to purchase.  I'll be even happier once the stock price gets back above 9 bucks.

 

Unless I lose my company car, I'm probably 2 years off from making my next vehicle purchase.  We'll see what the Blue Oval offers at that time, that fits my needs & budget.

 

HRG

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Funny how turbos on Diesel engines are coveted and praised and nobody every complains about them, but ecoboosts are constantly panned even though they were developed exactly the same way - with turbocharging as a base requirement.

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10 minutes ago, akirby said:

Funny how turbos on Diesel engines are coveted and praised and nobody every complains about them, but ecoboosts are constantly panned even though they were developed exactly the same way - with turbocharging as a base requirement.

 

Please stop making sense.. it isn't a good look.

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I've been selling Fords since 2018. I always preferred the EB engines in the Explorer and Edge when they offered the NA 3.5. Some consumers just don't get the benefits of turbocharging. All they here is "4 cylinder" and they shut down.

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2 hours ago, mpcmotorsports said:

I've been selling Fords since 2018. I always preferred the EB engines in the Explorer and Edge when they offered the NA 3.5. Some consumers just don't get the benefits of turbocharging. All they here is "4 cylinder" and they shut down.

 

Maybe those consumers experienced first generation Ecoboost engines, which had noticeable turbo lag, some reliability issues, and poor real world fuel economy. This could be a good opportunity to inform your customers and prospects of the many improvements in second and third generation Ecoboost engines.

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