Trader 10 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/04/ford-mustang-next-generation-2023/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 So, this next generation still will not sit on CD6, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, passis said: So, this next generation still will not sit on CD6, right? It will use the same architecture. In fact I believe CD6 used a lot of the current mustang platform to begin with. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudz64 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The job post states "Ford and Lincoln quality..." hmmm....is this a leak of a Mustang based future Lincoln? Remember the UAW contract mentioned for Flat Rock "all new Mustang, including derivatives" Maybe a new Zephyr is coming after all?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdatdude Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, spudz64 said: The job post states "Ford and Lincoln quality..." hmmm....is this a leak of a Mustang based future Lincoln? Remember the UAW contract mentioned for Flat Rock "all new Mustang, including derivatives" Maybe a new Zephyr is coming after all?? I hope that's the case because Lincoln needs a beautiful car to make the brand aspirational..I believe the CUVs would sell even better with a A7 type car to put the brand in front of enthusiast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 hours ago, spudz64 said: The job post states "Ford and Lincoln quality..." hmmm....is this a leak of a Mustang based future Lincoln? Remember the UAW contract mentioned for Flat Rock "all new Mustang, including derivatives" Maybe a new Zephyr is coming after all?? It probably refers to Flat Rock building both Mustang and Continental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Justdatdude said: I hope that's the case because Lincoln needs a beautiful car to make the brand aspirational..I believe the CUVs would sell even better with a A7 type car to put the brand in front of enthusiast. Hello.......Continental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, akirby said: It probably refers to Flat Rock building both Mustang and Continental. Isn’t the electric SUV Rivian is building in 2 years supposedly going to be named Continental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Trader 10 said: Isn’t the electric SUV Rivian is building in 2 years supposedly going to be named Continental? Probably but it’s not going to Flat Rock. Ford is being deliberately general with its references to avoid divulging any changes that may be coming S550 evolving int S650 is a no brainer once CD6 was scaled back, it’s probably a lot lower cost to Keep going in that direction anyway. Edited February 6, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, akirby said: Hello.......Continental? Are you talking current Continental? I like the Continental, but I think the A7 has sportier lines, which I imagine is what he had in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, tbone said: Are you talking current Continental? I like the Continental, but I think the A7 has sportier lines, which I imagine is what he had in mind. That’s subjective. Continental is in the same class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, akirby said: That’s subjective. Continental is in the same class. Eh, not to me. Continental says elegance to me. There's nothing sporty about its design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Eh, not to me. Continental says elegance to me. There's nothing sporty about its design. He said a beautiful car, not sporty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 46 minutes ago, akirby said: He said a beautiful car, not sporty. he said the Audi had sportier lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 If hybrid Mustang is out later this year then, perhaps it is the precursor for S650 which is expected to use a more modular approach to to engineering groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 19 hours ago, akirby said: It will use the same architecture. In fact I believe CD6 used a lot of the current mustang platform to begin with. I recall one review of the Aviator concept (and I appreciate the concept could differ mechanically from production) but it was stated the rear suspension looked almost identical to S550. So, is S650 an evolution of S550, or is it moving to CD6? I guess those two things could actually be the same! Either way, I'm just glad, in the current climate, we're still getting a new Mustang. It seems Camaro fans aren't so lucky, and even Dodge can't seem to make up its mind what will be next for the Challenger/Charger twins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I think originally they were going to do a clean sheet CD6 car platform for several models but the other cars were cancelled so they’re just going to tweak the current mustang platform to save money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdatdude Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 14 hours ago, akirby said: Hello.......Continental? The profile isn't beautiful or sexy. The car is nice and was way better than MKS but it was still a stubby hood FWD car. They NEED a RWD car to solidify their brand ethos in a lower volume halo car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Justdatdude said: The profile isn't beautiful or sexy. The car is nice and was way better than MKS but it was still a stubby hood FWD car. They NEED a RWD car to solidify their brand ethos in a lower volume halo car. I think it’s gorgeous but then again that’s subjective. And they don’t NEED a halo sedan. The new Continental BEV will be the halo vehicle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Twin Turbo said: I recall one review of the Aviator concept (and I appreciate the concept could differ mechanically from production) but it was stated the rear suspension looked almost identical to S550. So, is S650 an evolution of S550, or is it moving to CD6? I guess those two things could actually be the same! Either way, I'm just glad, in the current climate, we're still getting a new Mustang. It seems Camaro fans aren't so lucky, and even Dodge can't seem to make up its mind what will be next for the Challenger/Charger twins. Virtual link IRS was first used on CD4 based vehicles and adapted to Mustang Explorer using Strut front end while Aviator uses SLAS is more clues to S550 link but could equally be some D4 legacy. GM fans will cling to rumours of new modular RWD architecture being all things to all people To me GM tries too hard and does so much over delivery of performance but forgets or is that ignores the basic day to day needs of Camaro buyers... they'll find a way to screw it up. Edited February 7, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Virtual link IRS was first used on CD4 based vehicles and adapted to Mustang Explorer using Strut front end while Aviator uses SLAS is more clues to S550 link but could equally be some D4 legacy. GM fans will cling to rumours of new modular RWD architecture being all things to all people To me GM tries too hard and does so much over delivery of performance but forgets or is that ignores the basic day to day needs of Camaro buyers... they'll find a way to screw it up. GM killed the camaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: GM killed the camaro Worse than that, they revived it only to endure an agonizing sales decline. You'd wonder how a company could screw up a sure thing.... Edited February 7, 2020 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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