JX1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Does anyone wager if it will be a redesign like the '21 F150 or just regular midlife change like the 2015 model that added EB engines? Just curious, since after new F150, maybe everything changes up, but same frame? I vote midlife change, because a lot of stuff supports that theory. Same for Navigator I guess. Edited February 16, 2020 by JX1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerDude Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Technically it’s an MCA, but it’s significant for both Expedition and Navigator. I mean the 2021 F-150 is a new generation but it’s not an all new truck with the general footprint and cabs all carrying over. One could say the changes the Expedition and Navigator get are exactly on par with the F-150s changes. Both get new sheetmetal from windshield forward plus, new headlights, grilles and bumpers, plus new rear sheet metal on hatch with new taillights. Inside both get new dashboards and new door panels in front row. Yes the new F-150 dashboard will be shared with the 2022 Expedition. There will be powertrain updates as well but don’t know specifics. It’s honestly nice to see the Expedition and Navigator stay fresh right along with the F-150. No more languishing for these beasts seeing as they make so much money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I assume the new dashboard will be an upgrade over the current one in all 3 vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I hope they find a way to differentiate that Expedition dash from the F150 in the next iteration. I don’t mind if the hard points remain the same, but it needs to have better and different trim pieces where possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Get ready for the larger touch screens as the battle for the largest screen heats up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, ice-capades said: Get ready for the larger touch screens as the battle for the largest screen heats up! Hmnn...I'm waiting for the first lawsuit that makes a huge award based on defendant was distracted by screen....recognizing that argument for bigger screen is less attention needed because of scale. As always, only winners will be the legal profession. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordowner Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Always love a fictitious fact pattern supporting a gratuitous broad brush conclusion! I blame the libs! Anyway larger screens are nice - if they have well laid out split screens or perhaps multiple screens which is basically what is happening with electronic gauges and infotainment screens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 7:57 AM, Bob Rosadini said: Hmnn...I'm waiting for the first lawsuit that makes a huge award based on defendant was distracted by screen....recognizing that argument for bigger screen is less attention needed because of scale. As always, only winners will be the legal profession. hows Tesla faring down that road?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Deanh said: hows Tesla faring down that road?... Consumer Reports dinged Ford for their MFT 8" screens lacking physical buttons for some things - major safety issue. Then they give Tesla Model S a higher than perfect score and they have no hard buttons at all. But they're not hypocritical.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, akirby said: Consumer Reports dinged Ford for their MFT 8" screens lacking physical buttons for some things - major safety issue. Then they give Tesla Model S a higher than perfect score and they have no hard buttons at all. But they're not hypocritical.... oh yes...the wonderful Consumer Reports....hmmph! ...just wondering if distracted driving is a chargeable, sue-able offence ( barring cell phones of course ) because Ive been on the bike behind weaving Teslas ...and that wonderful big screen has a lot to answer for... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Possibly the new style dash like the Explorer, so they can add the larger infotainment screen and perhaps the Raptor 3.5 in the Platinum version. A Stealth package on the Platinum would be nice . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 If the expy, nav get the explorer upgraded styled screens, they will be lambasted for the most part. From screenshots,it looks like the f150 screen will mold to the dash and the dash will be a modernized versikn of what it has now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Also, hopefully they revise and retune the suspension and add air suspension (atleast to navigator) as well as ventilated sec row seats and heated third row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I'd love to see the 5.0 V8 hybrid used in the Expedition but maybe they use the 3.0 V6 EB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I'm hoping for a new dash for Expedition with much better integration than Explorer. Maybe a few lens changes for exterior lighting and minor grille updates. Navigator just needs a revised rear, and maybe an optional grille for the GT model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying68 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 PHEV behind the current 3.5L tuned to 450 HP / 500 ft lbs with a combined 550 HP / 715 ft lbs. Navigator can get a bigger boost to say 500/550 on the ICE alone. I might be inclined to trade mine in for this combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The current F150/Expy dash is fine for lower end models but definitely need something nicer for higher trim levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flying68 said: PHEV behind the current 3.5L tuned to 450 HP / 500 ft lbs with a combined 550 HP / 715 ft lbs. Navigator can get a bigger boost to say 500/550 on the ICE alone. I might be inclined to trade mine in for this combination. Mmmmm, Expedition ST Edited February 18, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 10:48 AM, tbone said: I hope they find a way to differentiate that Expedition dash from the F150 in the next iteration. I don’t mind if the hard points remain the same, but it needs to have better and different trim pieces where possible. There doesn't have to be a different dash, but they definitely need to push material quality/types higher on the upper trims. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I kno the ford f150 hasnt been unvealed yet but havent seen any prototypes or camoed expeditions yet. I remember seeing camoed refreshed versions of the my15 version back in 2012, atleast 2 yrs b4 release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Expedition is 2021 CY, not model year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 2:59 PM, akirby said: Consumer Reports dinged Ford for their MFT 8" screens lacking physical buttons for some things - major safety issue. Then they give Tesla Model S a higher than perfect score and they have no hard buttons at all. But they're not hypocritical.... So, I wonder what they're going to give the Porsche Taycan. According to a review I just watched, you'll even have to use the touchscreen to adjust the A/C vents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SoonerLS said: So, I wonder what they're going to give the Porsche Taycan. According to a review I just watched, you'll even have to use the touchscreen to adjust the A/C vents... Well it’s not a Ford so probably 100000 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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