LSchicago Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 9:00 AM, MY93SHO said: 13.37 0-60? That sucks! You have s Tourette's problem, you can't stop bringing up 2014? THAT WAS 6 YEARS AGO!! LOL, no 5.0 RCSB bone stock did 13.37 in the 1/4 mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 2:00 PM, akirby said: A RCSB 5.0L or a Supercab 3.5LEB is probably just as fast as the old lightning. If they want to get crazy they could easily put the Supercharged 5.2L into a RCSB with some suspension mods. This is the right idea for a performance truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) This Lightning was mine. I'd buy a real Ford built Lightning today if they built a new one! Edited March 2, 2020 by LSchicago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, LSchicago said: I'd buy a real Ford built Lightning today if they built a new one! Not Ford built but comes with a 3 year warranty on the blower. What are you waiting for? https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a26184349/2019-ford-f-150-supercharged-lebanon-ford/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, akirby said: Not Ford built but comes with a 3 year warranty on the blower. What are you waiting for? https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a26184349/2019-ford-f-150-supercharged-lebanon-ford/ Not buying a dealer built truck. Otherwise I'd build my own. I'm waiting for Ford to build another in house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, LSchicago said: Not buying a dealer built truck. Otherwise I'd build my own. I'm waiting for Ford to build another in house. Why? It still retains every bit of the factory warranty plus whatever is added on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Why? It still retains every bit of the factory warranty plus whatever is added on. A real Lightning would retain more value, and be a better engineered truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, LSchicago said: A real Lightning would retain more value, and be a better engineered truck. I get the value part but it's not like they’re buying parts out of the Summit Racing catalog. They’re parts designed by Ford suppliers (most of them coming from either Roush or Shelby American) for use for that purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I get the value part but it's not like they’re buying parts out of the Summit Racing catalog. They’re parts designed by Ford suppliers (most of them coming from either Roush or Shelby American) for use for that purpose. For $40K, they are taking a stripped down F150 RCSB 5.0 and slapping a Supercharger on it. Outside of power, it has none of the appeal of a Real Lighting. No special looks, interior, handling, etc. Not even close to the same thing. Edited March 2, 2020 by LSchicago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, LSchicago said: For $40K, they are taking a stripped down F150 RCSB 5.0 and slapping a Supercharger on it. Outside of power, it has none of the appeal of a Real Lighting. No special looks, interior, handling, etc. Not even close to the same thing. Now that's a completely different argument. Probably should have lead with that one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) On 2/29/2020 at 9:37 PM, MKX1960 said: People with long fingernails will eventually scratch the buttons when twisting the knobs. There should be enough gap between the knobs and buttons for fingers to pass between them. Lol, seriously? You want an inch gap between a knob and a button because some finger nails might touch them? Edited March 2, 2020 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolScoop Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 IMO, it looks more like a mid cycle refresh than an all new truck... I hope the interior is completely new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, CoolScoop said: IMO, it looks more like a mid cycle refresh than an all new truck... I hope the interior is completely new. There are plenty of pics in this thread that show the interior is new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, rmc523 said: There are plenty of pics in this thread that show the interior is new. To his point however, this is a mid cycle refresh from what we can see. It looks to be the same cab which would indicate its not an entirely new truck, which means hardpoints are carried over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Anthony said: To his point however, this is a mid cycle refresh from what we can see. It looks to be the same cab which would indicate its not an entirely new truck, which means hardpoints are carried over. None of this is news, we were told this back in May. TADA!! Just as averagengineer said. Edited March 2, 2020 by MY93SHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Anthony said: To his point however, this is a mid cycle refresh from what we can see. It looks to be the same cab which would indicate its not an entirely new truck, which means hardpoints are carried over. I've said since before spy shots surfaced months ago that it'd be a 2009-esque "all new" in that it keeps the same cab/doors and the rest is new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I know this is a rendering but damn I really like this. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/ford-f-150-electric-pickup-224220259.html Cybertruck what? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Very subtle. I like it a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 11:41 AM, Anthony said: To his point however, this is a mid cycle refresh from what we can see. It looks to be the same cab which would indicate its not an entirely new truck, which means hardpoints are carried over. What this truck is not doing, so far anyway, is making me think wow, I’ve got to have that and trade my 2017 in for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 1:10 PM, rmc523 said: I've said since before spy shots surfaced months ago that it'd be a 2009-esque "all new" in that it keeps the same cab/doors and the rest is new. The '09 didn't share the same cab and doors. The cab was stretched with longer front doors and a much larger back seat area. The cab did look very similar though, just stretched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I think with any product, you keep what is still competitive, and work on updating the things that put you ahead of the competition. It looks like Ford is doing exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, fordmantpw said: The '09 didn't share the same cab and doors. The cab was stretched with longer front doors and a much larger back seat area. The cab did look very similar though, just stretched. Right, I knew about the stretch - I meant other than that, it was the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudz64 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Since the Super Duty uses the same cab of the F150, and the Expedition uses the same dash from them as well, didn’t they sort of have to carry on with the same cab? Were we expecting Ford to come up with a new one for the 2021 F-150 and keep the older one as well? I’m not sure if being all aluminum makes that more $$$ or not. They definitely get economies of scale using as many common parts as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, spudz64 said: Since the Super Duty uses the same cab of the F150, and the Expedition uses the same dash from them as well, didn’t they sort of have to carry on with the same cab? Were we expecting Ford to come up with a new one for the 2021 F-150 and keep the older one as well? I’m not sure if being all aluminum makes that more $$$ or not. They definitely get economies of scale using as many common parts as possible. Whatever they do with the F150 cab, expect the Super Duty to follow with 2 years later. They share cabs, but stamped at different places so they don’t have to be identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 hours ago, rmc523 said: Right, I knew about the stretch - I meant other than that, it was the same. It was exactly the same. I mean, other than the cab, fenders, nose, and impact/rollover protection... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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