Chromey Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Is that a shift lever in the console? I was under the impression that the 2021's would get a rotary dial like the Expedition. Shifting gears in a truck, for me anyway, either needs to be done with a lever coming from the floor or the steering column. Rotary dial in a car? Sure...I'm good with that. I'm just not a fan of rotary dial gear selectors in trucks. So if I don't like a rotary dial shift selector, then why don't I just get one of the current models while I can? Well, that's just what I did! When buying a new vehicle, I've always tried to pick what I wanted from the leftovers of the previous model year. Didn't want to take a chance at the end of 2020 and not getting what I wanted in a trim level and miss out on a truck with a proper gear shift lever. So I just got a 2019 leftover KR in Stone Grey with the Chrome Package and pretty much every option there is other than rear wheel well liners and the Heavy Duty Payload Package. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Chromey said: I'm just not a fan of rotary dial gear selectors You probably could have just stopped there honestly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I hate the rotary shifters too. One of my least favorite things about Ford vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, sullynd said: I hate the rotary shifters too. One of my least favorite things about Ford vehicles. Their whole reasoning publicly was saving space on the center console, then I look at all of that precious saved space and see they didn't really do much, if anything with it. Makes me wonder what the point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Their whole reasoning publicly was saving space on the center console, then I look at all of that precious saved space and see they didn't really do much, if anything with it. Makes me wonder what the point is. If they want to save space in the console, then they need to move the damn dial out of the console! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: If they want to save space in the console, then they need to move the damn dial out of the console! Problem is other than the steering column, where are you going to put it? There's already very little room to spare in the IP because of crash bracing and existing wiring harnesses. Ask any engineer and they'll tell you that fighting for space in the IP is one of the hardest jobs they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Problem is other than the steering column, where are you going to put it? You already stated the answer, the column... that's it. This was never a problem that needed to be solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: Or was that due to Super Duty changeover last year? Ford is actually limited on the amount of F Series it can produce but in a good way, it forces them to focus on crew and super cab trucks. In terms of Conquest sales I think GM has more to fear from Ram than Ford, don’t you? Whenever sales are down -its always "the production of product is limited" card that is played on this forum. Every single time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, CKNSLS said: Whenever sales are down -its always "the production of product is limited" card that is played on this forum. Every single time...... Except F-Series sales aren't down.... if anything they're flat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Problem is other than the steering column, where are you going to put it? There's already very little room to spare in the IP because of crash bracing and existing wiring harnesses. Ask any engineer and they'll tell you that fighting for space in the IP is one of the hardest jobs they have. That's a good question that I don't have the answer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulltrout Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 IP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, bulltrout said: IP? Instrument Panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulltrout Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I knew it would be something obvious. Just couldn’t think of it. Thanks. And the damn column shifter doesn’t need fixing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Manual trans solve the issue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, snooter said: Manual trans solve the issue.... Adderall can solve your issues... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, CKNSLS said: Whenever sales are down -its always "the production of product is limited" card that is played on this forum. Every single time...... Sales were down a mere 13,000 on a Super Duty changeover year, 896k vs 909k is only down because buyers were prepared to wait for the new 7.3 Super Duty. If you did even the slightest bit of research, you would realise just how hard Ford is driving it's three F Series plants. In three plants, Ford builds F 150, Super Duty, Expedition and Navigator - over a million vehicles produced last year. Edited February 22, 2020 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 9 hours ago, sullynd said: I hate the rotary shifters too. One of my least favorite things about Ford vehicles. Ram has rotary shift knobs in the 1500 and they seem to sell well, ask Silverado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, twintornados said: Adderall can solve your issues... Or a good assisted living facility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Except F-Series sales aren't down.... if anything they're flat. When someone is always looking at everything from a "glass half empty" everything is down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 9 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Their whole reasoning publicly was saving space on the center console, then I look at all of that precious saved space and see they didn't really do much, if anything with it. Makes me wonder what the point is. Actually there is some video somewhere with an Expedition engineer that said the rotary dial is for autonomous driving systems in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromey Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: You probably could have just stopped there honestly Maybe so. Figured a preemptive response would be a good idea as the pro-rotary gang would show up and tell me if I didn’t like it, then don’t buy one with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MY93SHO said: Actually there is some video somewhere with an Expedition engineer that said the rotary dial is for autonomous driving systems in the future. I can't possibly imagine this tech being ready for prime time within the next generation or the generation after that.. If true, that's wack yo. Seriously, lets do the math.... 10 years? No way.... Even 20 honestly seems hard to believe. Edited February 22, 2020 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Interior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MY93SHO said: Actually there is some video somewhere with an Expedition engineer that said the rotary dial is for autonomous driving systems in the future. I like the push buttons on our Lincoln. You don’t have to put it in park - just turn off the engine. There are also some safety features made possible with full electronic control. I bet some people’s head will explode when they find out the ignition key doesn’t engage the starter anymore. It all runs through the computer and the computer controls the starter and the throttle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MY93SHO said: Actually there is some video somewhere with an Expedition engineer that said the rotary dial is for autonomous driving systems in the future. That makes more sense than saving space. I was looking at the console in my car before I left work this morning and compared it to the 2015 fusion parked next to me. The dial/parking brake assembly takes up just as much space as the old shift lever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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