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Tesla Cybertruck Will Come With A Payload And Towing Calculator


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2 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:

And?

" The real-time data will be crucial in helping the driver plan a tight turn, execute an overtake maneuver with a heavy payload, or plan for negotiating steep downgrade with cargo in tow. Any additional load on the Cybertruck, or on any vehicle for that matter, can impact how the vehicle responds to braking, turning, or even parking. Of course, another big consideration will be how the extra load will impact the Cybertruck’s range."

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-real-time-ui-towing-calculator-active-suspension/

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28 minutes ago, akirby said:

In other words - thing that truck drivers already know how to do.

"will also show real-time changes to max acceleration, braking, cornering, speed on gradient & range, latter factoring in route elevation changes & cargo or tow mass & drag impact"

Not sure if any vehicle comes with this today, and if it comes with the truck, I am sure it can be one factor that wins the pickup truck game for Tesla. 

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26 minutes ago, akirby said:

Find one actual truck driver who hauls and/or tows and thinks this is useful information.  We’ll wait.

 

It’s useless information that sounds cool.

 

Completely agree.  Been towing campers for 12 years and NONE of that is useful (conventional and 5th wheel).

 

Exactly why I said "and" in my reply.. it is useless tech.. it's an answer to a question that was never asked.

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1 hour ago, blwnsmoke said:

 

Completely agree.  Been towing campers for 12 years and NONE of that is useful (conventional and 5th wheel).

 

Exactly why I said "and" in my reply.. it is useless tech.. it's an answer to a question that was never asked.

Just wondering if there is any info available on the software and electronics that will be standard equipment on the Rivan truck? Not sure about the launch date but will it come before the Cybertruck? Is Ford planning to have their own BE truck? If so will it be made in Mexico like the Mustang Mach E? As far as answering a question that was never asked, think back to the iPhone. No one asked for that.

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1 hour ago, mlhm5 said:

Just wondering if there is any info available on the software and electronics that will be standard equipment on the Rivan truck? Not sure about the launch date but will it come before the Cybertruck? Is Ford planning to have their own BE truck? If so will it be made in Mexico like the Mustang Mach E? As far as answering a question that was never asked, think back to the iPhone. No one asked for that.

 

I don't own an iPhone.  Just like tesla, there are major fanboys that will only own an iphone despite much better options out there.

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6 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:

 

I don't own an iPhone.  Just like tesla, there are major fanboys that will only own an iphone despite much better options out there.

Wonder whatever/will happened/happen to Motorola, Nokia, Ericsson, Blackberry, PDAs, MP3 players, regular wristwatches, handheld video games, and point and shoot cameras after the introduction of the iPhone/iWatch?

I am an observer of disruptive innovation and Tesla is the iPhone in the legacy automaker market.

By the end of 2021, Tesla will have 5 gigafactories ( #1 opened in July of 2016) in operation around the world.

Ford is building its Mustang Mach E in a 56-year-old factory in Mexico and plans to produce 50K Mustang Mach E's by the end of 2021.

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16 hours ago, mlhm5 said:

Just wondering if there is any info available on the software and electronics that will be standard equipment on the Rivan truck? Not sure about the launch date but will it come before the Cybertruck? Is Ford planning to have their own BE truck? If so will it be made in Mexico like the Mustang Mach E? As far as answering a question that was never asked, think back to the iPhone. No one asked for that.

 

You mean the BEV F-150 coming out next year?

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39 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

 

You mean the BEV F-150 coming out next year?

This is from the PR in Dec 2019.

"In 2020, Ford will debut the all-new F-150 and F-150 hybrid. The fully electric Ford F-150 is coming soon after and will be part of the company’s more than $11.5 billion global electrified vehicle investment. Dearborn Truck Plant will build these Ford F-150s, part of Ford F-Series, America’s best-selling truck for 42 straight years."

Is there another PR that states the BEV will be available in 2021?

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9 minutes ago, mlhm5 said:

This is from the PR in Dec 2019.

"In 2020, Ford will debut the all-new F-150 and F-150 hybrid. The fully electric Ford F-150 is coming soon after and will be part of the company’s more than $11.5 billion global electrified vehicle investment. Dearborn Truck Plant will build these Ford F-150s, part of Ford F-Series, America’s best-selling truck for 42 straight years."

Is there another PR that states the BEV will be available in 2021?

 

F-150/F-150 hybrid - 2020

 

soon after is 2021.  And it's been reported here multiple times by insiders.

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9 minutes ago, mlhm5 said:

This is from the PR in Dec 2019.

"In 2020, Ford will debut the all-new F-150 and F-150 hybrid. The fully electric Ford F-150 is coming soon after and will be part of the company’s more than $11.5 billion global electrified vehicle investment. Dearborn Truck Plant will build these Ford F-150s, part of Ford F-Series, America’s best-selling truck for 42 straight years."

Is there another PR that states the BEV will be available in 2021?

 

We've already seen a prototype tow a train, so 2021 seems very doable.

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56 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

 

F-150/F-150 hybrid - 2020

 

soon after is 2021.  And it's been reported here multiple times by insiders.

Are you confident that a retired CEO from an office furniture manufacturer where he spent 30 years understands the disruptive innovation taking place in the auto industry and is positioning F to be a winner? There are some doubters out there.

 

2.24.2020 - Detroit Free Press

 

"Ford is facing tremendous downside market and financial risk on so many fronts," he said. "Its restructuring plans have not yielded the benefits as soon as promised and expected, and may never do so. Its European and South American operations are perennial losers and have not improved. And its China business has gone from too late of an entry with too little market share, to less than half of that. The only strong business that Ford has is North America, and even then it is only in the U.S. and Canada since its Mexico presence has fallen to near irrelevancy."

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/02/24/ford-stock-ceo-jim-hackett/4821205002/

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5 minutes ago, mlhm5 said:

Are you confident that a retired CEO from an office furniture manufacturer where he spent 30 years understands the disruptive innovation taking place in the auto industry and is positioning F to be a winner? There are some doubters out there.

 

Shall we list Elon's failures?

1996: Outsted as CEO of his own company Zip2

1999 First Paypal product was given as one of the 10 worst business ideas

2000 Ousted from Paypal

2008 Top Gear tests the Roadster.  It was an utter failure on the show

2016 Model X deliveries 18 monts late.

 

So his track record isn't exactly stellar here...

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46 minutes ago, mlhm5 said:

Are you confident that a retired CEO from an office furniture manufacturer where he spent 30 years understands the disruptive innovation taking place in the auto industry and is positioning F to be a winner? There are some doubters out there.

 

Far more confident that Ford will figure out how to sell as many BEVs as the public wants to buy and do it at a profit which is sustainable year over year.

 

Most of the "disruption" you're talking about is nothing but small scale R&D stuff that isn't profitable and doesn't scale.

 

I will give him credit for advancing battery technology and vehicle electronics (to a degree) and I think that is what will eventually survive either as a supplier to other companies or as a wholly owned subsidiary.

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The global unit sales market for EVs in 2030 is forecasted to be at least 20 million vehicles per year and most if not all those sales are going to cannibalize the ICE vehicles.  To scale up production to meet that demand requires billions in new investments and billions in write-downs of existing ICE manufacturing. If Ford decides to be a player in this market they will be losing revenue with decreased ICE and parts sales at the same time they are making huge investments required to retool and scale-up the production to produce mass-market volumes of EVs. IMO, this will be a one-two knock-out punch for Ford if they decide to manufacture truly competitive EVs on a mass-market scale. If the analysts believed in Hackett after 2+ years at the helm the stock would not be under $8. 

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4 hours ago, mlhm5 said:

The global unit sales market for EVs in 2030 is forecasted to be at least 20 million vehicles per year and most if not all those sales are going to cannibalize the ICE vehicles.  To scale up production to meet that demand requires billions in new investments and billions in write-downs of existing ICE manufacturing. If Ford decides to be a player in this market they will be losing revenue with decreased ICE and parts sales at the same time they are making huge investments required to retool and scale-up the production to produce mass-market volumes of EVs. IMO, this will be a one-two knock-out punch for Ford if they decide to manufacture truly competitive EVs on a mass-market scale. If the analysts believed in Hackett after 2+ years at the helm the stock would not be under $8. 

 

Tesla sold 367,000 vehicles in 2019 compared to over 90 million vehicles sold globally..  Tesla is peanuts compared to the auto industry.  You sound like Tesla will be responsible for the 20 million sales in the next 9 years.

 

Your 20 million by 2030 is from all manufacturers.. and just how many of those 20 million will be from Tesla?  Again, peanuts.

 

Stop talking like Tesla and the 1 and only that will be alive producing these 90 million vehicles that are sold each year.

 

Oh that's right.. 5 total gigafactries coming with 2 tents per factory.

 

PS, sell your stock in Tesla before you have 4-5 other automakers launching their BEV in the next 2 years.

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14 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:

 

Tesla sold 367,000 vehicles in 2019 compared to over 90 million vehicles sold globally..  Tesla is peanuts compared to the auto industry.  You sound like Tesla will be responsible for the 20 million sales in the next 9 years.

 

Your 20 million by 2030 is from all manufacturers.. and just how many of those 20 million will be from Tesla?  Again, peanuts.

 

Stop talking like Tesla and the 1 and only that will be alive producing these 90 million vehicles that are sold each year.

 

Oh that's right.. 5 total gigafactries coming with 2 tents per factory.

 

PS, sell your stock in Tesla before you have 4-5 other automakers launching their BEV in the next 2 years.

Each of those 20+MM EV sold in 2030 will be a direct replacement for and ICE vehicle. Ford is out of the sedan business.

Currently, Tesla has over 500,000 reservations (pay $100) just for the Cybertruck and it is not scheduled to be released until 2021. Pre-orders for the Model Y are unknown or untracked. Ford plans to build 50K Mustang Mach E's by the end of 2021. Either Ford is consciously deciding not to be a major player in the EV market, they are just going to dip their toe in the market and take a wait and see position or they do not believe the future of EVs is as bright as being reported. I suspect the reason Ford did not go with an EV pick-up first is they did not want to cannibalize their existing market. With 3+MM pick-ups sold in the US alone Ford could have increased their hold on the pick-up market by being first with an EV like the Cybertruck. 

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/how-to-tell-your-place-in-line-based-on-cybertruck-preorder-reservation-number.251/ 

 

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