351cid Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 5:39 AM, twintornados said: Ah, yes...also known as "The Oldsmobile Cutlass Strategy"... Hey...they're doing it with the Mustang. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, 351cid said: Hey...they're doing it with the Mustang. And Bronco. Welcome to sub-branding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, akirby said: And Bronco. Welcome to sub-branding. Either way; I don't care for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, 351cid said: Either way; I don't care for it. You didn't like the Bronco and Bronco II in the 80s/90s? How about the Ford Taunus family in Europe earlier than that? How about the Transit family that consists of 4 vehicles now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Did anyone like the Bronco II?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, probowler said: Did anyone like the Bronco II?? Well it did become the Explorer when they added 2 more doors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 hours ago, probowler said: Did anyone like the Bronco II?? A friend of mine had one. He really liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddude44 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I need that cover for my truck. No more rock chips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 15 hours ago, probowler said: Did anyone like the Bronco II?? Best thing about ours was I still have the two Eddie Bauer bags that came with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 17 hours ago, ausrutherford said: You didn't like the Bronco and Bronco II in the 80s/90s? How about the Ford Taunus family in Europe earlier than that? How about the Transit family that consists of 4 vehicles now? In my opinion; when you change a vehicle name to a brand, it dilutes the name. Case in point; Mustang. When I hear someone say they own a Mustang, I envision a sporty 2 door coupe or fastback. That is no longer the case with that new 4 door, crossover, electric "Mustang" thing. Archaic as I may be, this is my opinion, and I don't seem to think it will change anytime soon. I've still not forgiven Chysler for the injustice they commited against the Charger name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, 351cid said: In my opinion; when you change a vehicle name to a brand, it dilutes the name. Case in point; Mustang. When I hear someone say they own a Mustang, I envision a sporty 2 door coupe or fastback. That is no longer the case with that new 4 door, crossover, electric "Mustang" thing. Archaic as I may be, this is my opinion, and I don't seem to think it will change anytime soon. I've still not forgiven Chysler for the injustice they commited against the Charger name. Except nobody will call it a Mustang, they'll call it a Mach-E. Bronco is a little different in that it's the same type of vehicle just a different size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, 351cid said: Archaic as I may be, this is my opinion, and I don't seem to think it will change anytime soon. I've still not forgiven Chysler for the injustice they commited against the Charger name. Probably feel the same about the 4-door Thunderbird? HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, akirby said: Except nobody will call it a Mustang, they'll call it a Mach-E. Bronco is a little different in that it's the same type of vehicle just a different size. I have no issue with the Bronco and agree that it's the same type of vehicle except for size. Same for the Transit van series. Had the Mach-E been an electric two door fastback coupe, I'd been ok with that too. I take issue with it being a 4 door crossover. Another name would have been better received by those of us that are traditionalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Probably feel the same about the 4-door Thunderbird? HRG I was too young to care with that one. My mother had that exact car (color & all). I thought the suicide doors were cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, 351cid said: I have no issue with the Bronco and agree that it's the same type of vehicle except for size. Same for the Transit van series. Had the Mach-E been an electric two door fastback coupe, I'd been ok with that too. I take issue with it being a 4 door crossover. Another name would have been better received by those of us that are traditionalist. So the name of a vehicle the "traditionalists" won't ever buy offends the handful of "traditionalists" who are fans of the mustang coupe which is unchanged and still available. Meanwhile millions of potential buyers are drawn to Mach-E because of the Mustang name, styling cues and performance. Got it. I mean, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, it just doesn't make sense to me unless they were actually changing the mustang coupe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, akirby said: So the name of a vehicle the "traditionalists" won't ever buy offends the handful of "traditionalists" who are fans of the mustang coupe which is unchanged and still available. Meanwhile millions of potential buyers are drawn to Mach-E because of the Mustang name, styling cues and performance. Got it. I mean, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, it just doesn't make sense to me unless they were actually changing the mustang coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, akirby said: So the name of a vehicle the "traditionalists" won't ever buy offends the handful of "traditionalists" who are fans of the mustang coupe which is unchanged and still available. Meanwhile millions of potential buyers are drawn to Mach-E because of the Mustang name, styling cues and performance. Got it. I mean, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, it just doesn't make sense to me unless they were actually changing the mustang coupe. For the record; I've not talked with anyone who thinks the Mach E name was a good idea. Most people say something along the lines of "That's not a Mustang, it's a crossover". Of course it could be because of the knuckle dragging, toothless hillbilly circle I run with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, 351cid said: For the record; I've not talked with anyone who thinks the Mach E name was a good idea. Most people say something along the lines of "That's not a Mustang, it's a crossover". Of course it could be because of the knuckle dragging, toothless hillbilly circle I run with. I wouldn't go that far. But I think it's safe to say those people are not the demographic who would be looking to buy the vehicle regardless of name. I also think you're underestimating the brand recognition that Ford gets from having it associated with Mustang as opposed to some random new name. From a marketing perspective that's hard to ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 15 hours ago, CurtisH said: A friend of mine had one. He really liked it. I also liked mine and i too still have the 2 EB bags. Plus i still have the EB bag from my 1995 F150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 We had a 99 Expedition Eddie Bauer but it didn't come with any luggage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 6:31 PM, probowler said: Did anyone like the Bronco II?? Yep, ordered one when they came out. Compared to the competition, it was quicker and more manuverable. I liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Probably feel the same about the 4-door Thunderbird? HRG Nice car, I had a 68 and 69, A nice cruiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 hours ago, akirby said: So the name of a vehicle the "traditionalists" won't ever buy offends the handful of "traditionalists" who are fans of the mustang coupe which is unchanged and still available. Meanwhile millions of potential buyers are drawn to Mach-E because of the Mustang name, styling cues and performance. Got it. I mean, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, it just doesn't make sense to me unless they were actually changing the mustang coupe. Using the same invalid argument over and over won't suddenly make it valid. Even if it's true that some won't buy the new cars, some still will... rendering this argument moot. At least throw in a "most" or "some" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: Best thing about ours was I still have the two Eddie Bauer bags that came with it! I wish cars nowadays came with those kind of goodies.... I wonder if the New Bronco might offer something similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 5:31 PM, probowler said: Did anyone like the Bronco II?? I liked mine, even though it cracked more heads than a nutcracker cracks nuts. I kinda miss that little POS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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