akirby Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, probowler said: Using the same invalid argument over and over won't suddenly make it valid. Even if it's true that some won't buy the new cars, some still will... rendering this argument moot. At least throw in a "most" or "some" 99.99% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, probowler said: I wish cars nowadays came with those kind of goodies.... I wonder if the New Bronco might offer something similar? Hah-if they did it would be offered when you opted for ..."Eddie Bauer Blue/ Gold Clearcoat ....@ $2195. And to Ifeg's comment..for sure ..no need to back it out of the garage, you could do a u-turn IN the garage! We did like it-but not as much as we liked the 1990 Explorer that replaced it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, 351cid said: I was too young to care with that one. My mother had that exact car (color & all). I thought the suicide doors were cool. I was still a Chrysler guy when that came out, but I really liked the looks of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, akirby said: 99.99% Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, probowler said: Source? Somebody who loves Mustangs and is upset that they put the Mustang name on a BEV crossover probably doesn't like crossovers or BEVs in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, akirby said: Somebody who loves Mustangs and is upset that they put the Mustang name on a BEV crossover probably doesn't like crossovers or BEVs in the first place. Oh now i see you specifically meant the mach-e. Yeah id probably agree with that assumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipzoomflyfast Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Getting back on topic.... Does anyone know when they plan or planned to show this new small truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 11:04 AM, 351cid said: In my opinion; when you change a vehicle name to a brand, it dilutes the name. Case in point; Mustang. When I hear someone say they own a Mustang, I envision a sporty 2 door coupe or fastback. That is no longer the case with that new 4 door, crossover, electric "Mustang" thing. Archaic as I may be, this is my opinion, and I don't seem to think it will change anytime soon. I've still not forgiven Chysler for the injustice they commited against the Charger name. Chrysler bastardized the Charger nameplate years before the sedan. Did you forget this FWD piece of crap? The current Charger are much more in keeping with the 1960s/1970s Chargers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 6:31 PM, probowler said: Did anyone like the Bronco II?? My Mom had one from when I was 5 to 8 years old. So many fond memories were had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The Mach-E is more of a Mustang...than say...this.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ausrutherford said: Chrysler bastardized the Charger nameplate years before the sedan. Did you forget this FWD piece of crap? The current Charger are much more in keeping with the 1960s/1970s Chargers. They also slapped the Challenger name on a Mitsubishi coupe that wasn't any better. The Charger was also briefly a slow selling Cordoba clone that got a new nose and a new name(Magnum) in the late 70s. The Magnum sold much better. Edited March 20, 2020 by AGR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 hours ago, zipzoomflyfast said: Getting back on topic.... Does anyone know when they plan or planned to show this new small truck? Next year, according tô what I read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AGR said: They also slapped the Challenger name on a Mitsubishi coupe that wasn't any better. The Charger was also briefly a slow selling Cordoba clone that got a new nose and a new name(Magnum) in the late 70s. The Magnum sold much better. The Cordoba was also nice. The "small Chrysler". The Magnums of that era were really nice. Those were the days when Chrysler was still building nice cars. Edited March 20, 2020 by MKX1960 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 9:11 PM, ausrutherford said: Chrysler bastardized the Charger nameplate years before the sedan. Did you forget this FWD piece of crap? The current Charger are much more in keeping with the 1960s/1970s Chargers. That's the one I've never forgiven them for. I don't like tbe four door, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 9:15 PM, ausrutherford said: The Mach-E is more of a Mustang...than say...this.... I disagree with your opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 9:15 PM, ausrutherford said: The Mach-E is more of a Mustang...than say...this.... 6 hours ago, 351cid said: I disagree with your opinion. Agree with @351cid on this one...if it weren't for the Mustang II and the sales success it enjoyed, we could have lost the entire Mustang line in the 70's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, twintornados said: Agree with @351cid on this one...if it weren't for the Mustang II and the sales success it enjoyed, we could have lost the entire Mustang line in the 70's. Fortunate timing with 490 lbs lighter and smaller, just as OPEC tripled the price of crude in '73. I removed seeing the Cobra Mustang on Charlie's Angels, three spoke wheels from memory? Edited March 21, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 12 hours ago, twintornados said: Agree with @351cid on this one...if it weren't for the Mustang II and the sales success it enjoyed, we could have lost the entire Mustang line in the 70's. My issue is not the Mustang II itself, but a guised-up "luxury version" with a canvas top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 The Mustang II is as much a real Mustang as the bloated 1971-73 models, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, AGR said: The Mustang II is as much a real Mustang as the bloated 1971-73 models, IMO. Agree. It is not the most attractive looking car, but it still looks like a Mustang with the design cues. I really don't think it is ugly either. I think if it had a proper V8 and horsepower, It wouldn't have such a bad rap. The energy crisis was to blame for it coming out that way, but it was the correct choice as it did sell well enough to keep the Mustang alive for it to flourish today and not be another AMC Javelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, AGR said: The Mustang II is as much a real Mustang as the bloated 1971-73 models, IMO. Agreed. Too big and too heavy. Ugly too (to me). Even Iacocca disliked it. As he explained that model's poor sales, "The Mustang market never left us, we left it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mackinaw said: Agreed. Too big and too heavy. Ugly too (to me). Even Iacocca disliked it. As he explained that model's poor sales, "The Mustang market never left us, we left it." Bunkie Knudsen coming from GM had a different take on what Mustang needed to be in order to compete with Camaro and Firebird but even though I like them, they were getting big and moving away from what Mustang was supposed to be. 351/429 Boss were still great vehicles and epitomised Bunkie's desire to stick it to GM for passing him over as president of GM. I think he tried to make Mustang into a Camaro and a lot of buyers didn't like that as much as sticking to Mustang's roots. Mustang II was an over correction for sure but proved fortuitous given OPEC '73. Thankfully Ford rediscovered the formula a few years later. Edited March 22, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: 351/429 Boss were still great vehicles Yep, ‘71 BOSS 351 was one of (If not) the fastest 1/4 mile Mustangs from ‘65-‘73 model years. That almost horizontal back window is something to behold when sitting in the drivers seat. I tend to like the style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 hours ago, ausrutherford said: My issue is not the Mustang II itself, but a guised-up "luxury version" with a canvas top. Ahhh, the 1970's were an interesting time style wise....vinyl tops, half tops, Ghia editions, loads of chrome, hood ornaments etc etc etc were all the rage....I was a young teen growing up in the 70's and I loved it....all personal preferences I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, twintornados said: Ahhh, the 1970's were an interesting time style wise....vinyl tops, half tops, Ghia editions, loads of chrome, hood ornaments etc etc etc were all the rage....I was a young teen growing up in the 70's and I loved it....all personal preferences I suppose. Flares and platform shoes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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