blwnsmoke Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) So, 700hp+. Yes it is a different market then most buyers but what does one thing Ford will do in response? https://www.yahoo.com/autos/hellcat-powered-ram-rebel-trx-153100055.html I cant imagine it getting any more then low teens for mpg in a tall, heavy high powered truck with huge tires. Edited March 10, 2020 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh! Ford can not let this stand.... if we can have a GT, then Ford can build a HALO Raptor. Do NOT let Ram take down our Raptor! If they wanna race, I say legooooooooo! Edited March 10, 2020 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) The thing will sound beastly compared to the Raptors v6. I suppose they could always throw a supercharged 5.0 in it. But not sure if Ford would ever do it. But if this article is correct, you will have a lot of people looking at it compared to the 450hp the raptor has. Edited March 10, 2020 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said: But if this article is correct, you will have a lot of people looking at it compared to the 450hp the raptor has. Especially with the $10/hp rebate they keep throwing at it,,,, HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Been waiting on this....as useless as tremor though...wait for it..heep throws a 2 door option on gladiator next...i will be in line for that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 It’s not entirely clear if they’re developing a full raptor competitor, since they stated they are dialing down some of the details of the truck. Nevertheless if they’re coming out with a motor like that for what is going to be deemed a competitor to the raptor, Ford is going to have to respond to that. As an owner of the current generation raptor and the previous generation as well, I do think the eco-boost V6 is a better motor in this truck versus the 6.2 L, with the exception of the good old V8 sound of course. The eco-boost feels powerful, but if this is supposed to be Ford’s highest performance truck, it’s going to have to have more power and likely a V-8 since the competition is starting to heat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, tbone said: It’s not entirely clear if they’re developing a full raptor competitor, since they stated they are dialing down some of the details of the truck. Nevertheless if they’re coming out with a motor like that for what is going to be deemed a competitor to the raptor, Ford is going to have to respond to that. As an owner of the current generation raptor and the previous generation as well, I do think the eco-boost V6 is a better motor in this truck versus the 6.2 L, with the exception of the good old V8 sound of course. The eco-boost feels powerful, but if this is supposed to be Ford’s highest performance truck, it’s going to have to have more power and likely a V-8 since the competition is starting to heat up. The beauty of the free-market at work... Competition forces everyone to step up their game or get left behind. Even though I love Ford, I definitely respect what Ram and Dodge are doing with some of their vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I'm sure Ford could always put the 5.2L CP V8 with supercharger from the GT500 in it...but you have to re-certify it for the A10. How about a Hybrid 3.5L Ecoboost? That might be easier to do...but the tuning factor of GT motor might be an issue in a truck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, probowler said: The beauty of the free-market at work... Competition forces everyone to step up their game or get left behind. Even though I love Ford, I definitely respect what Ram and Dodge are doing with some of their vehicles. Agreed. If I didn’t buy an F series, I would likely buy a Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: I'm sure Ford could always put the 5.2L CP V8 with supercharger from the GT500 in it...but you have to re-certify it for the A10. How about a Hybrid 3.5L Ecoboost? That might be easier to do...but the tuning factor of GT motor might be an issue in a truck. I would say just go with the 5.2 L. I think the vast majority would like to have the sound back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09KR0058 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The thing I love the most about news like this is that in spite of the ridiculous CAFE standards, the auto manufacturers are listening to their customers and know that we still want beasts like this and there is a steady market for them. I was behind a Shelby F150 at a stop light a few weeks ago. When the light turned green he took off pretty quickly. Just hearing that sound brought a big smile to my face. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 There are so many sc 5.0s being done by mod dealers, ford could easily throw that in for 700+HP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Basically they can get there with either motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Dodge is really catering to enthusiasts and it's awesome. They actually build what people desire instead of what the company believes we should drive. Finally I think we see Ford trying to swing in that direction with the Bronco and I'm so excited to see what they can do! The Mustang, GT, and Aviator shows that when Ford wants to they can build an emotive and passionate automobile...I want to see more Bronco and Avi from them and (honestly) less 2020 Escape. Edited March 13, 2020 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 hours ago, probowler said: Dodge is really catering to enthusiasts and it's awesome. They actually build what people desire instead of what the company believes we should drive. Finally I think we see Ford trying to swing in that direction with the Bronco and I'm so excited to see what they can do! The Mustang, GT, and Aviator shows that when Ford wants to they can build an emotive and passionate automobile...I want to see more Bronco and Avi from them and (honestly) less 2020 Escape. That's because they literally only have one powertrain, and just stuff it in everything. They're so behind on everything else. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat501 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Talk of a Ford response has been around for a year or so https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26912015/ford-f-150-raptor-v-8-supercharged/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, TopCat501 said: Talk of a Ford response has been around for a year or so https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26912015/ford-f-150-raptor-v-8-supercharged/ Step 1: you put a V8 in the Raptor Step 2: you put same V8 in the Bronco Step 3: Profit. Edited March 16, 2020 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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