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Fordowner Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Since much of this social distancing to "flatten the curve" is unfortunately necessary despite it's severe consequences to the economy is based on the lack of ventilators, I would love to know what exactly goes into ramping up production of ventilators. For instance, -does Ford build these on an assembly line or which factory/facility do they build them in, - when will Ford actually start building Ventilators? days? weeks? months? - How many ventilators will Ford be making a week? at the start, after 2 weeks, at full speed? Medical equipment and Car manufacturing doesn't seem connected, or perhaps they can use the ecoboost technology to blow air into our bodies.......In which case this could be a great brand loyalty builder.... 20 years from today you'll have a Dad saying "Son if it wasn't for Ford's Ecoboost technology you wouldn't be here today" Seriously though - if Covd 19 won't have a vaccine for a year (assuming they can develop one) this sounds like a big piece of the long term puzzle (and we should have started this effort 2 months ago once we saw what was happening in China). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I love it! If any factory workers can chime in about how this process works, it would be fascinating to see how Ford is switching up to mask production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Fordowner said: Since much of this social distancing to "flatten the curve" is unfortunately necessary despite it's severe consequences to the economy is based on the lack of ventilators, I would love to know what exactly goes into ramping up production of ventilators. For instance, -does Ford build these on an assembly line or which factory/facility do they build them in, - when will Ford actually start building Ventilators? days? weeks? months? - How many ventilators will Ford be making a week? at the start, after 2 weeks, at full speed? Medical equipment and Car manufacturing doesn't seem connected, or perhaps they can use the ecoboost technology to blow air into our bodies.......In which case this could be a great brand loyalty builder.... 20 years from today you'll have a Dad saying "Son if it wasn't for Ford's Ecoboost technology you wouldn't be here today" If you read the article they are using fans from seats and 3D printed parts. The work is also done at the experimental/test assembly plant, which I assume can tool up quickly for tasks like this. Edited March 25, 2020 by silvrsvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Let’s give credit where it’s due. Musk just imported 1200 ventilators from China. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordowner Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: If you read the article they are suing fans from seats and 3D printed parts. The work is also done at the experimental/test assembly plant, which I assume can tool up quickly for tasks like this. I read this article https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-respirators-ventilators-face-shields-125700742.html , the link above doesn't get me to an article. This Yahoo article says that the fans from the F150 seats are for the "new version of 3M's powered air-purifying respirators " and the 3d printed parts are for the plastic face shields that are being made at the experimental /test assembly plant and that plan to make 100,000 of these plastic face shields a month. Frankly plastic face shields are pretty basic. There is no information on the ventilators other than they are working with GE Healthcare to build a simplified version of one of their ventilators - Ventilators is what I'm asking about as I believe that is one of the major challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, akirby said: Let’s give credit where it’s due. Musk just imported 1200 ventilators from China. Well, yeah he had to import them because we all know Tesla doesn’t have the manufacturing knowledge to produce them! ? All kidding aside, kudos to all companies helping out in this crisis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 13 hours ago, silvrsvt said: If you read the article they are suing fans from seats and 3D printed parts. Damn lawyers, ruining everything... 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 22 hours ago, probowler said: I love it! If any factory workers can chime in about how this process works, it would be fascinating to see how Ford is switching up to mask production. Since this is medical equipment I tend to think they won't use any assembly or stamping plants for this, it's too dirty of an environment. The face shields they delivered to Detroit hospitals yesterday I believe came from somewhere on the Dearborn campus but I'm not 100% sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 hours ago, SoonerLS said: Damn lawyers, ruining everything... Damn typos lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Since this is medical equipment I tend to think they won't use any assembly or stamping plants for this, it's too dirty of an environment. The face shields they delivered to Detroit hospitals yesterday I believe came from somewhere on the Dearborn campus but I'm not 100% sure. I'm just a pimple on the Tool & Die butt, but I found it interesting that already yesterday I had a request on my desk for a component to be used in a new injection mold for a "ventilator" part. Tooling to be built by a moldmaker, request from one of the Auto manufacturers, end user one of the major Medical equipment suppliers. HRG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: I'm just a pimple on the Tool & Die butt, but I found it interesting that already yesterday I had a request on my desk for a component to be used in a new injection mold for a "ventilator" part. Tooling to be built by a moldmaker, request from one of the Auto manufacturers, end user one of the major Medical equipment suppliers. HRG What I think is really happening here since it doesn't really make much sense to make medical supplies in an automotive facility for sterilization reasons is that companies like 3M are coming to companies like Ford/GM/FCA and leaning on them for their engineering expertise and ability to design production systems in a hurry. If they’re able to make them in house somehow (like Ford is doing with face shields at the moment) then even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 How they did it. https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a31917145/ford-respirators-coronavirus-covid-19/ 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Is Ford ready to produce ventilators? U.S. President Donald Trump exhorted both Ford and General Motors to do that ASAP. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Get the extended warranty on the gm unit....trust me on this one.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Now the joke will switch from my Ford sucks (My Ford Touch) to my Ford blows (Ventilators) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I think we are still good with the bronc flex....for another week or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 7 hours ago, rperez817 said: Is Ford ready to produce ventilators? U.S. President Donald Trump exhorted both Ford and General Motors to do that ASAP. This is after he said New York doesn't need that many ventilators. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-hannity-coronavirus-ventilators-new-york-30000/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 If they're just stockpiling them, they don't need them.... at the moment. I'd be hesitant to give NY more right now if other states are short, but eventually they may need them. Just have to make sure everyone gets their fair share and no one is left completely out to dry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 7 hours ago, jpd80 said: Now the joke will switch from my Ford sucks (My Ford Touch) to my Ford blows (Ventilators) More like they'll slowly poison you with CO2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 hours ago, atomcat68 said: This is after he said New York doesn't need that many ventilators. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-hannity-coronavirus-ventilators-new-york-30000/ He said they were available in a NJ warehouse but NY wasn’t using them. He also said we will export ventilators to other countries that need them. And we need a national stockpile of ventilators and PpEs as future protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I imagine that they are going to deploy the stored respirators as needed but, given the peak need is just two weeks away, I would have expected that the extra ventilators would have already been located close to or at the hospitals where they will be needed. They've only been in lock down for just over a week, so they need time for that to cut the infection rate because it take a weekor two before the results start to show a slowing of the spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 The tax payers own gm....berra needs her salary cut from 22m/yr to 2 bucks for running that company into the ground...the death rate in my state from beer virus is .013%.....that seems odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 12 hours ago, atomcat68 said: This is after he said New York doesn't need that many ventilators. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-hannity-coronavirus-ventilators-new-york-30000/ They are defective units from china...musk bought there junk...dutch just issued recall on 100,000s of masks that are defective... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 11:53 PM, rperez817 said: Is Ford ready to produce ventilators? U.S. President Donald Trump exhorted both Ford and General Motors to do that ASAP. Looks like Ford is ready to produce GE Healthcare/Airon designed ventilators at its Rawsonville, Michigan plant in 3 weeks. An official from the White House commended Ford and GE Healthcare on its effort. "the Ford/GE Healthcare team is moving in ‘Trump time’ to speed urgently needed ventilators to the front lines of the Trump Administration’s full-scale war against the coronavirus. Just as Ford in the last century moved its manufacturing might seamlessly from auto to tank production during World War II, the Ford team is working with GE Healthcare to use its awesome engineering and manufacturing capabilities to voluntarily help this nation solve one of its most pressing problems. We salute that effort and look forward to the first ventilators rolling off the Michigan assembly line in record time – and we’ll be there to salute that milestone." Press release. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2020/03/30/ford-to-produce-50-000-ventilators-in-michigan-in-next-100-days.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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