AGR Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 https://www.autoblog.com/2020/04/02/honda-gm-electric-cars-2024-north-america/ Back in the 70s and 80s when one of the Big 3 sourced a vehicle or engines, platforms, etc. from a Japanese automaker, all we heard was "Detroit sucks" from the Japanese car lovers. Now I guess that it's our turn to say that Japan Inc sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Being stuck in the ICE age is what really sucks. As the automotive industry globally goes 100% electric, collaboration among automakers will be essential. In addition to this arrangement between Honda and General Motors, Ford is working together with VW and Rivian, Toyota with Subaru, Suzuki and Mazda, and BMW with JLR and Daimler on BEV development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, rperez817 said: ..... Toyota with Subaru,.... Well yeah, since Toyota is buying Subaru. https://www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-officially-joins-toyota-group-what-it-means-new-outback-and-forester-models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, twintornados said: Well yeah, since Toyota is buying Subaru. https://www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-officially-joins-toyota-group-what-it-means-new-outback-and-forester-models It's more of a Ford/Mazda relationship rather than Subaru becoming a wholly-owned subsidiary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 hours ago, rperez817 said: Being stuck in the ICE age is what really sucks. As the automotive industry globally goes 100% electric, collaboration among automakers will be essential. In addition to this arrangement between Honda and General Motors, Ford is working together with VW and Rivian, Toyota with Subaru, Suzuki and Mazda, and BMW with JLR and Daimler on BEV development. The difference is that GM, Ford, VW, BMW, JLR, and M-B already have their own EV programs, they're doing JVs to share costs. By all accounts, most of the Japanese automakers are nowhere on EVs, largely because they've clung to the fool cell fantasy. This was aided and abetted by their government's generous $20K per car subsidies for FCVs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, AGR said: By all accounts, most of the Japanese automakers are nowhere on EVs, largely because they've clung to the fool cell fantasy. This was aided and abetted by their government's generous $20K per car subsidies for FCVs. Good point AGR sir. GM and Honda partnered on fuel (fool) cell stuff in 2013, saying they'd do "joint development of a fuel cell system both companies intend to deploy in next-generation hydrogen fuel cell vehicles around 2020." https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a1813721/gm-honda-partner-build-hydrogen-fuel-cells-2020/ Wonder if that will ever happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT90SC Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Odd. I checked the date on the article expecting it to be a day earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Japan believes ev's to still be risky....they are saving cash and will simply copy the other guys work when they need to do so....ford's venture into ev's may end up not being such a wise choice....time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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