fuzzymoomoo Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, akirby said: I'd take almost anything over a Yuhoe. I agree I would rather walk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) they should have made the grille bigger. It doesn’t have the same presence as the old one. They should have made the grille different from other Jeep grilles too. Not every vehicle has to look like it’s part of a family. Edited September 3, 2020 by T-dubz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 hours ago, T-dubz said: they should have made the grille bigger. It doesn’t have the same presence as the old one. They should have made the grille different from other Jeep grilles too. Not every vehicle has to look like it’s part of a family. The first comment I was going to make is that the grille should have been bigger. This should have screamed “Jeep”, but looks more like an enlarged Durango update. The interior is spot on though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I want to like it, but I just can't. At least not as a whole. I'm very interested to see what the production model looks like - I think it actually may look BETTER, because this to me is almost too overdone - too many details for the sake of having details, too many elements clashing with each other. I agree with the rest of you on the front end - the grille is a bit too short for my liking. And the lighting details in it almost seem unnecessary - I'd be surprised if they make it to production (maybe the whole width running light if it's legal, but not the vertical lights) The sides - I don't like the pillar treatment at all. They look so jarring......but I guess at any rate it's unique. I cannot for the life of me place it, but there's a vehicle out there that this reminds me of. The back........I feel like the stylists said "what if we took the Discovery and centered the license plate and added some horizontal strips and squared the edges. That lack of a spoiler is odd too - I have to image the production model will have one. The interior looks pretty good if not also over detailed - it may actually benefit from production finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) The front end looks good, but the grill is too small to give real presence. The grill gives me pre refresh 3rd gen navigator vibes, as my nav was white and didnt have the optional chrome shield on top of the grille. Theres also new caddy vibes as well, with the tiny headlights. That may be why they slimmed the grille, to prevent comparisons btw the two. The sides pillars like rmc said dont mesh well, but i think it will flow better on a monochromatic color scheme, the blacktop points out the pillars too much. If anything, jeep shouldve connected the front two windows and made the c pillar the way it is or thin out the b pillar atleast. Jeep needs to go all on the taillights(connect the lights), or add a body accent to tie the design better. Also, i kno the car is a concept but the lack of a wiper is throwin me off too. And jeep better add a spoiler, the rear end desperately needs it. The old prototypes do suggest better proportions. I bet jeep is also debating to add stationary running boards or power boards. Suggestion: power boards. Edited September 4, 2020 by Dlcorbett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 17 hours ago, akirby said: I'd take almost anything over a Yuhoe. That's what it kind of reminds me of. And not a recent one. It kind of looks like the 2007-2014 Tahoe. If this came out over a decade ago, this would be fine, but it is kind of forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 16 hours ago, T-dubz said: they should have made the grille bigger. It doesn’t have the same presence as the old one. They should have made the grille different from other Jeep grilles too. Not every vehicle has to look like it’s part of a family. I love the commonality of the grill since i think it really speaks to their heritage and believe there's not a chance in hell you will ever see one without 7 slots. Agree it shares nothing with the original but the name. Still trying to figure out the back side profile and rear end, and keeping in mind this in a concept. Doubt much will change and see a lot I like-the inside is stunning and Jeep's brand name is as good as anything in the industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Nobody does retro modern like Ford. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 hours ago, akirby said: Nobody does retro modern like Ford. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Everybody gets a mulligan! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 This guy sums up my feelings for the Wagoner 100% Go to about 9:30 in the video if you want to skip to him giving his opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Harley Lover said: I dunno, I personally liked/still like the retrobird. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I dunno, I personally liked/still like the retrobird. It's a Florida thing. j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 It looks fine to me. And with it being a Jeep, I'm sure that they'll sell plenty of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The biggest issue I have with it is that even though this is a stand alone model (I'm assuming) the overall sheetmetal still looks like what a Dodge version of this would be. You could swap out the front end with a new Facia and make a dodge without trying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 10:56 AM, jcartwright99 said: Interior is interesting. Am I the only one who sees Navigator exterior styling cues? Yes if you are talking this Navigator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 This is a disappointing exterior effort by Jeep, however I do like the interior, particularly the screening front of the passenger. The exterior looks like the took the Renegade and inflated it to a full size SUV. No way would I pay $100k for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 4:00 PM, Harley Lover said: I hated the "retro" Thunderbird from the beginning. The plan was limited production of 25,000/year for 4 years. Dealer ADM's didn't help but sales never met the objective in the 3rd and 4th years. And the handling left a lot to be desired. I say this coming from the dealership known as "Birdland" that was one of the top 10 Thunderbird dealers in the country (the largest dealer between Washington, D.C. and the Canadian border) with annual combined new/used sales of 600-700 units! That's just Thunderbirds not counting the incremental business for other models because customers equated our Thunderbird marketing to mean great deals on the other models. Ground-breaking marketing included exclusive live reads by Don Imus on WNBC, then WFAN plus similar live reads by morning drive personalities on the major CT radio stations. TBird 2002 White Color RGB.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 It didn’t help that they kept the LS interior and didn’t do a retro theme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Snap a retro-bird up now while they're cheap, they have collector car written all over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, mackinaw said: Snap a retro-bird up now while they're cheap, they have collector car written all over them. There is a local used car dealer that has some exotics in it at times that has 3-4 of them, one with some tacky ass wheels too. https://www.briansautocenter.com/newandusedcars?MakeName=Ford&ClearAll=1&__RequestVerificationToken=CfDJ8OG43AwZbeBLpWZtORYE2fFSO41ufCTrKk7GHRasDzQ9rfuSSr9EyhQhTmsMblAfmJX4jbZaj28wYNj7SOR31WN25g-0NBVjTknXi6PhYpwz2LPQKriQ1kMOU5cDu96cQslxNaUUeRefm2feyKIw-Lk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: There is a local used car dealer that has some exotics in it at times that has 3-4 of them, one with some tacky ass wheels too. https://www.briansautocenter.com/newandusedcars?MakeName=Ford&ClearAll=1&__RequestVerificationToken=CfDJ8OG43AwZbeBLpWZtORYE2fFSO41ufCTrKk7GHRasDzQ9rfuSSr9EyhQhTmsMblAfmJX4jbZaj28wYNj7SOR31WN25g-0NBVjTknXi6PhYpwz2LPQKriQ1kMOU5cDu96cQslxNaUUeRefm2feyKIw-Lk Oh dear god that's AWFUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, silvrsvt said: The biggest issue I have with it is that even though this is a stand alone model (I'm assuming) the overall sheetmetal still looks like what a Dodge version of this would be. You could swap out the front end with a new Facia and make a dodge without trying. Valid point, but the styling is new so even if it shares sheet metal with Dodge (just like most other manufacturers shared sheet metal btw, see Expy/Navi), it’s still new. Edited September 6, 2020 by 02MustangGT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 5:17 PM, Harley Lover said: It's a Florida thing. j/k You got that right.....my neighbor to the left has one and ditto to the right. 2 seaters in general are popular here.......T-birds, Vettes, Boxsters, and Miatas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 6:17 PM, silvrsvt said: The biggest issue I have with it is that even though this is a stand alone model (I'm assuming) the overall sheetmetal still looks like what a Dodge version of this would be. You could swap out the front end with a new Facia and make a dodge without trying. I have to agree with that. I also think you might've helped me place the vehicle I was thinking of - the Nitro (and later 2nd gen Liberty). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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