Gurgeh Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Bloomberg: Ford CEO’s Vow for Flawless Launches Tested by High-Stakes F-150. "Ford will temporarily shut a factory in Michigan next month to install machinery for the redesigned F-150 pickup going on sale next year. The automaker also is constructing a new facility adjacent to its Dearborn, Michigan, truck plant to build an electric version of the F-150, according to people familiar with the project. Prototype production is expected to start next year, said the people, who asked not to be identified revealing internal plans. "Ford also will idle and overhaul its Missouri pickup factory in October to prepare for the redesigned truck after closing its Dearborn plant for two weeks of retooling starting Sept. 7, according to the people. The complex and costly changeover of the two factories will trim output of Ford’s biggest cash cow by about 100,000 vehicles this fall..." https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-24/ford-ceo-s-vow-for-flawless-launches-tested-by-high-stakes-f-150 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Another article from Motley Fool: https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/08/24/ford-begins-work-on-new-factory-for-its-electric-f/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Thanks Gurgeh, you're on the ball with these articles! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 "Missouri plant"..... I keep forgetting that the Kansas City truck plant is in Missouri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, akirby said: "Missouri plant"..... I keep forgetting that the Kansas City truck plant is in Missouri. Yep. Claycomo MO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Thanks for sharing the article Gurgeh sir! Very good to read about Ford executives' commitment to BEV and to doing a "flawless" new vehicle launch, both of which eluded Ford in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, rperez817 said: ....Very good to read about Ford executives' commitment to BEV and to doing a "flawless" new vehicle launch, both of which eluded Ford in the past. Wrong on both counts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, rperez817 said: and to doing a "flawless" new vehicle launch, both of which eluded Ford in the past. Name one failed new vehicle launch other than Explore/Aviator in the last 6 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, akirby said: Name one failed new vehicle launch other than Explore/Aviator in the last 6 years. every single one of them, haven't you heard? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 5 hours ago, akirby said: "Missouri plant"..... I keep forgetting that the Kansas City truck plant is in Missouri. Where else would a Kansas City plant be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, fordmantpw said: Where else would a Kansas City plant be? Kansas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Kansas! Just like Michigan City,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Indiana! HRG 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Where else would a Kansas City plant be? GM's Kansas City plant is in Kansas...barely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Where else would a Kansas City plant be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I'm from Missouri so...the only real Kansas City is the state where Arrowhead stadium is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: I'm from Missouri so... D’oh! I forgot that. To be honest though I wasn’t sure which state Arrowhead is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Graphics to make it easier to understand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 13 hours ago, akirby said: Name one failed new vehicle launch other than Explore/Aviator in the last 6 years. In all seriousness, how many have there been (i.e. all new product)? F150, Transit, and what else? <I can't remember, not trying to be a wiseacre> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Harley Lover said: In all seriousness, how many have there been (i.e. all new product)? F150, Transit, and what else? <I can't remember, not trying to be a wiseacre> The only one that was really a disaster recently was Explorer/Aviator. 2015 F-150 was pretty much flawless at 2 different plants. Super Duty and Expy/Navi were good. 2020 Escape/Corsair was great. Ranger was Great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Harley Lover said: In all seriousness, how many have there been (i.e. all new product)? F150, Transit, and what else? <I can't remember, not trying to be a wiseacre> Ranger. Escape, Corsair, F-150, SuperDuty, Transit, Continental?, Ecosport, Focus (ROW), Edge/Nautilus refresh, Navigator, Expedition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I think a staggered launch is a great decision. I would believe people wanting Platinum and Limited models will be waiting for the 2021s. Stocking XL and XLT for commercial use and consumers looking for a bargain should be their goal, even if it is less profitable. The profits will really kick in when both plants have been cranking out the high-end 2021s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, akirby said: Ranger. Escape, Corsair, F-150, SuperDuty, Transit, Continental?, Ecosport, Focus (ROW), Edge/Nautilus refresh, Navigator, Expedition I don't know how I forgot about Continental seeing as I was there for it. That one went well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 10 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Graphics to make it easier to understand ? How old is that map? 470 was complete in the early 80's and 3/4 of those railroads don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, jasonj80 said: How old is that map? 470 was complete in the early 80's and 3/4 of those railroads don't exist. N&W is now Norfolk Southern, CB&Q is now part of BNSF (after becoming part of the merger that formed Burlington Northern (BN) which included CGW which is seen in the upper right corner of that map and SLSF (Frisco) which is mostly south of the city) as is AT&SF, CRI&P and MP (MoPac) is part of Union Pacific. The only railroads on that map that still exist today is Kansas City Southern (KCS) and Union Pacific. Based on when BN was formed (1970) I would put this map as being from the late 60s. Edited August 25, 2020 by fuzzymoomoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Harley Lover said: In all seriousness, how many have there been (i.e. all new product)? F150, Transit, and what else? <I can't remember, not trying to be a wiseacre> The last really bad launch was the 2013 Escape, and that was more with recalls than with actual production. 2015 Edge had some, but nothing of the magnitude of the Explorer/Aviator. Those issues were that it was everything (engineering, union, supplier, plant management, and corporate governance). Was a perfect storm for a bad launch and got worse as finger pointing was all over and some just refusing to help as they saw it as an opportunity to get back at one or another of the groups or people getting their "feelings hurt". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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