Paradise Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 From what I found, it seems that no PHEV will be on the production line before octobre 5th. Is anybody can confirm that and / or know the reason of the delay? I know 2 persons waiting for their PHEV since February... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagemax Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 In my case, they got the better of my patience. I had ordered a Titanium PHEV at the beginning of last April. The production was to take place in June and delivered in early July. Production has moved to July, then August, then September, October, and now maybe November or even December, depending on what the dealership rep told me. So I canceled it all, and bought a RAV4 and got on the waiting list for the Rav4 Prime. Lack of seriousness at Ford, especially since, despite the COVID, they managed to deliver the Rav4 Prime in August. Finished for me the Ford !!! Pity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradise Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 I've heard yesterday that there's a 3 years waiting list for the RAV-4 Prime... Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagemax Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 It is true ! This is exactly what my dealer told me ... 3 years of waiting. So I bought a gas-only RAV 4, and put my name on the list for a Prime in 3 years. Some people I know have had a Prime and do up to 90 and even 95km in electric mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Rav-4 Prime sounds like Optimus Prime's illegitimate son..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Wait, so you’re not willing to wait a few more months for an Escape PHEV but you’re going to wait 3 years for a Rav-4? The logic in that decision making baffles me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagemax Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Let's say that the repeated postponements, the lack of transparency as to the reasons for the postponements of productions (my salesman told me each time that the postponements were caused because of COVID), the fires of the 4 European version PHEVs (Kuga), me have left perplexed as to the reliability of the Ford Escape PHEV. I would have a fear to plug it in in the garage and think there would be a risk of fire. All these reasons made me decide to change my vehicle. COVID has a wide back ... but still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 WIESBADEN - Saturday, August 29th , 2020 While charging the battery, a plug-in hybrid caught fire and burned out on Saturday afternoon in Biebrich. At 2:40 p.m. the owner had alerted the fire department after noticing crackling and smoke under his new car while charging and then quickly pulled the plug. For the Wiesbaden fire brigade, this was the first time an electric or hybrid car was fired, it said. "Our specialists for electric vehicles have been prepared for such cases for several years, the operation today went very well," said Florian Erbacher from the management service of the professional fire brigade. However, the extinguishing work was made more difficult by the fact that Ford is one of the manufacturers who have not installed an emergency opening for cooling the battery in the vehicle. This limits the possibilities of gaining quick access to the source of the fire. Source - https://www.main-spitze.de/lokales/region/wiesbaden-nagelneues-hybrid-auto-brennt-beim-laden-aus_22174360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolScoop Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 2018 https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/05/news/companies/toyota-prius-recall/index.html 2020 https://www.motorbiscuit.com/toyota-just-issued-a-recall-for-an-engine-issue-that-could-cause-a-fire/ 2020 https://insideevs.com/news/439751/bmw-stops-phevs-deliveries-fire-risk/ https://www.thedrive.com/news/28420/parked-teslas-keep-catching-on-fire-randomly-and-theres-no-recall-in-sight Edited September 24, 2020 by CoolScoop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 ^ Yes all manufacturers have their recalls. The Ford Kuga PHEV had 2 recalls already which did not work, lets see if the 3rd one gives customers that new car warm and fuzzy feeling to have the confidence to "plug in" Recall codes -20S38, 20S44, & 20S51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradise Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Can you give the link for Kuga TBS please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolScoop Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, MKII said: ^ Yes all manufacturers have their recalls. The Ford Kuga PHEV had 2 recalls already which did not work, lets see if the 3rd one gives customers that new car warm and fuzzy feeling to have the confidence to "plug in" Recall codes -20S38, 20S44, & 20S51 This isn't Ford's first PHEV so they know how to make them safe, but like you said... all manufactures have recalls. They'll get whatever problem the Kuga is having worked out and delaying production of the Escape until it's corrected is the right call. I have an Aviator GT and love it, but I'll always be a little concerned about it sitting in the garage. Not because its a Ford product... because all lithium batteries have the potential to become unstable for various reasons. I don't have that concern with our 2010 Fusion Hybrid because it has the old style NiMH batteries. Edited September 24, 2020 by CoolScoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Paradise said: Can you give the link for Kuga TBS please? Just google the recall codes for the Ford Kuga and you will find the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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