passis Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Footballfan said: Could the EVs made at Oakville also be made for VW? Interesting question. I could add Rivian to It. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Footballfan said: Could the EVs made at Oakville also be made for VW? I'm not an expert, but I know that the VW plant in Chattanooga has been expanded specifically to build the EV that VW just introduced (and will source in the short term from Germany until the Chattanooga output ramps up). VW intend to buy batteries from the same plant in Georgia (currently being doubled in size) that Ford intend to use, so putting all of that together, I don't think VW would need output from OAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Harley Lover said: I'm not an expert, but I know that the VW plant in Chattanooga has been expanded specifically to build the EV that VW just introduced (and will source in the short term from Germany until the Chattanooga output ramps up). VW intend to buy batteries from the same plant in Georgia (currently being doubled in size) that Ford intend to use, so putting all of that together, I don't think VW would need output from OAC. Ford has stated repeatedly that VW will not be using any of Ford's North American production facilities for their joint venture. Maybe one day that could change but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 12 hours ago, passis said: Interesting question. I could add Rivian to It. Not sure what you mean by this, but Rivian has their own plant. It is the former Diamond-Star/Mitsubishi assembly plant in Normal, IL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, AGR said: Not sure what you mean by this, but Rivian has their own plant. It is the former Diamond-Star/Mitsubishi assembly plant in Normal, IL. I meant extra capacity for the future. GM will be building Nikolas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Ford has stated repeatedly that VW will not be using any of Ford's North American production facilities for their joint venture. Maybe one day that could change but I doubt it. 2028 is supposed to be the hand back of Ranger to Ford North America, I wonder if a BEV Ranger gets built at Oakville...., Edited September 26, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 hours ago, jpd80 said: 2028 is supposed to be the hand back of Ranger to Ford North America, I wonder if a BEV Ranger gets built at Oakville...., More likely at the Rouge, Ford have already stated that more than the BEV F150 might be built there eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I thought that this announcement by Ford was supposed to happen today(?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, AGR said: I thought that this announcement by Ford was supposed to happen today(?). It did. Article on it in Automotive News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, mackinaw said: It did. Article on it in Automotive News. Subscription only. The front page mentioned the terms of the contract, pay/benefits, etc, which is none of my business or concern. Does the article have product news or plant allocation details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, AGR said: Subscription only. The front page mentioned the terms of the contract, pay/benefits, etc, which is none of my business or concern. Does the article have product news or plant allocation details? We have not been told the name of any of these supposed 5 top hats that are coming to OAC. They said one is a CUV projected 100000 unit second vehicle 50000 units. The other three so called performance vehicles projection 20000 each. Edited September 28, 2020 by Oacjay98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 210,000 ain't bad. If projections hold true of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) On 9/28/2020 at 5:51 AM, fuzzymoomoo said: 210,000 ain't bad. If projections hold true of course Ya by 2028 though. That when the last model will start production. I see lots of downtime on the horizon. Nautilus is supposed to balance out end of 2nd quarter 23. FWD Edge same time. Then all we will be left with is AWD Edge for the life of the contract maybe beyond. Then 5-16 month retooling timeline! Which I think is a bag of shit. Why so long? Edited October 2, 2020 by Oacjay98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: 210,000 ain't bad. If projections hold true of course I’m grateful for this investment all I’m saying is the timetable is still quite a far ways away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 https://uniforlocal707.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ford_master_bargaining_brochure-final.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Oacjay98 said: I’m grateful for this investment all I’m saying is the timetable is still quite a far ways away. Seems like a big gap from 2024 retooling to 2026 first EVs? Edited September 28, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Seems like a big gap from 2024 retooling to 2026 first EVs? Yes a very big gap, I know that we will start pre production before that but that’s quite the wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Seems like a big gap from 2024 retooling to 2026 first EVs? https://uniforlocal707.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ford-local_707_supplement.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Can someone explain your work schedule? If I do the math, its more then 40 hours a week Are the 10 hour days actually 9 hours because of an hour lunch or 30 minute lunch plus two 15 minute breaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Can someone explain your work schedule? If I do the math, its more then 40 hours a week Are the 10 hour days actually 9 hours because of an hour lunch or 30 minute lunch plus two 15 minute breaks? We are currently doing roughly 10 hour shifts. So if we’re doing a 10 hours day we’re here for 10.5 hours because lunch is unpaid. If we go 8 hours it’s 8.5 with lunch being unpaid. As for breaks we get 20 in the morning and 20 in the afternoon if we go ten you get an additional 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Oacjay98 said: Then 5-16 month retooling timeline! Which I think is a bag of shit. Why so long? They are basically going to rebuild the assembly plant; everything will be ripped out and started from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, jasonj80 said: They are basically going to rebuild the assembly plant; everything will be ripped out and started from scratch. Your explanation makes sense, gonna be a lot of old tooling to be removed here when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Oacjay98 said: Your explanation makes sense, gonna be a lot of old tooling to be removed here when the time comes. Right, however they can take a bulldozer and rip everything out very quickly. Never forget the body shop at Dearborn Truck was gutted, rebuilt and back to production in 6 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Right, however they can take a bulldozer and rip everything out very quickly. Never forget the body shop at Dearborn Truck was gutted, rebuilt and back to production in 6 weeks. I’m not surprised F-150 is the most important product. The profit machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 80 percent Unifor contract ratified! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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