JTL2017 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 https://fordauthority.com/2020/10/refreshed-2022-lincoln-navigator-spied-testing-in-heavy-camo/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 That’s a huge grill opening... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 I said it on Fordauthority, but I'm glad they aren't letting the Navigator and (I'm predicting) Expedition rot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, JTL2017 said: I said it on Fordauthority, but I'm glad they aren't letting the Navigator and (I'm predicting) Expedition rot. Let me guess...it will have same curved touch screen as the new Escalade. Or it better have for $100,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, FordBuyer said: Let me guess...it will have same curved touch screen as the new Escalade. Or it better have for $100,000. Maybe not curved but it needs something different. I never cared for the Escalade but I will admit that the screen is stunning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 They just need to get the software right. It's a nightmare in my 2020. A bit of hyperbole, but not much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FR739 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Black Label said: They just need to get the software right. It's a nightmare in my 2020. A bit of hyperbole, but not much. What kind of issues I’ve you had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, FR739 said: What kind of issues I’ve you had? Well, I have detailed them in a thread or 2 in Navigator threads on this forum, so I don't want to bore everyone and derail the thread. Feel free to shoot me a PM and I can tell you. The quick version is Sync 3 issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) So, I don't expect a huge change up front. Looks like a new lower bumper covering with the foglights being raised up higher. The headlights look like the current units carrying over. I'm sure we'll see a revised grille mesh to mimic Aviator too. Out back I expect bigger changes - the bumper is new, with the reflectors being higher up. The lighting is where I think the biggest change will happen -The liftgate looks all new. I expect the lightbar to "flip" from the current one and be flat on top (the existing one is flat on bottom, and notches at the top), raising in the center to the license plate, which is now higher up than before. This would match the Aviator and Corsair look. Inside, I wouldn't expect drastic changes, either, but this is more of a guess since there were no interior shots there......I do see a new center screen arriving - a larger, wider one, but honestly don't expect many changes beyond that. That's one of the few good things about the tablet design, is that it allows you to insert larger screens down the road and not have redesign the entire dash to accommodate them. Also, this wouldn't come until a full redesign, but they need to hide that rear wiper like they did on Aviator.....it's an eyesore. Edited October 21, 2020 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Black Label said: They just need to get the software right. It's a nightmare in my 2020. A bit of hyperbole, but not much. Have you ever used CUE? It isn’t particularly user friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, tbone said: Have you ever used CUE? It isn’t particularly user friendly. No, I am not familiar with that, and Google was not my friend this time. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Black Label said: No, I am not familiar with that, and Google was not my friend this time. ? It’s Cadillac’s infotainment system, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, tbone said: It’s Cadillac’s infotainment system, lol. The way Lincoln dealers treat me, I may have to, sadly, make that switch next time around. And, that has been one of my issues is slow infotainment startup. ? Edited October 21, 2020 by Black Label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Black Label said: The way Lincoln dealers treat me, I may have to, sadly, make that switch next time around. And, that has been one of my issues is slow infotainment startup. ? I would suggest thoroughly testing it out before you pull the trigger on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, tbone said: I would suggest thoroughly testing it out before you pull the trigger on it. I'll be in this Navigator a few more years, then, unfortunately for the US makes, I will probably go to a make that will treat me well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 With some body and refinement polishing(better nvh, better rough road ride, quieter), better tech and functionality, and better build quality, this should keep it st or near top of the class. Im sure now that gm and jeep showed their cards, ford can tune their suvs accordingly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FR739 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Black Label said: Well, I have detailed them in a thread or 2 in Navigator threads on this forum, so I don't want to bore everyone and derail the thread. Feel free to shoot me a PM and I can tell you. The quick version is Sync 3 issues. Fair enough. I’ll see if I can find them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, FR739 said: Fair enough. I’ll see if I can find them. Just trying not to derail this any further, but I'll be happy to detail my issues if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: With some body and refinement polishing(better nvh, better rough road ride, quieter), better tech and functionality, and better build quality, this should keep it st or near top of the class. Im sure now that gm and jeep showed their cards, ford can tune their suvs accordingly. I have had the impression that "Reviews" from the "experts" over the years have been critical of Ford for copying GM, but the few 2021 GM SUVs I have seen, at initial glance I thought were either an Expedition or Navigator. I agree with you, freshen up a few things, but the current gen was a knockout design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I always though that was weird. To me, gm always played catch up to ford with design and features, but when the third gens came out, gm used all their money on design, while ford used all theirs on function. The fords were better trucks, but the gms were more attractive to buyers. Even the 4th gens fords look more like range rovers to me. Parked next to my dads 4th gen escalade, there were hardly any similarities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Wondering if this will get an air suspension option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 10:07 PM, Black Label said: I'll be in this Navigator a few more years, then, unfortunately for the US makes, I will probably go to a make that will treat me well. Well I would hate to see you go, but I would like to think you aren’t at the dealership often. I get your point though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellanca Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I love the interior but always found the headlights and taillights to be somewhat of an afterthought. Tail light definitely needs to be more akin to the Aviator. Also wish they'd move the rear wiper to be hidden under the spoiler. It's just a cleaner look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 You have to guess that Powerboost is going to be an option now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 hours ago, tbone said: Well I would hate to see you go, but I would like to think you aren’t at the dealership often. I get your point though. Way too often for a brand new $98k vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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