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32 minutes ago, paintguy said:

Flu is down by 98% this season. I wonder why? Follow the money. 14 million COVID vaccine doses distributed by the federal government, fewer than 3 million administered. Must be getting a huge cold storage bill.


If you’re implying that normal deaths are classified as Covid and Covid isn’t actually killing anyone you’re sadly mistaken.  I looked at the data myself for total deaths regardless of cause.  In a normal year 2020 would have seen about 2.85M total deaths (more than any past year due to ongoing population increase).  Before this latest surge we were on track to hit 3.1M.  It’s probably going to end up over 3.2M at least.  That’s 350k more deaths than normal and it doesn’t matter how they’re classified.  Biggest annual increase previously was 80k.

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11 Senators Joining Cruz in Opposing Certification

 

Jan 6th we will witness Democracy at work. This isn't as some of our Democrat colleagues have referred to it, sadly, as frivolous. This debate is fundamental to our democracy, The representatives of the American people in this house are standing up for three fundamental American beliefs: The right to vote is sacred; that a representative has a duty to represent his or her constituents; and that the rule of law is the hallmark of our nation.

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31 minutes ago, paintguy said:

Never said COVID isn't killing anyone. Obviously it is. Are the numbers padded? Could be treatment of "COVID" pays better than "flu". Coding of medical bills have long been a number game. 


I thought that was pretty obvious. The CARES Act monetarily incentivized healthcare providers to classify hospitalizations and deaths as Covid. 

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There are as many theories, views, opinions and conspiracies' as people who voted. I voted for Trump for the second time for the same reason as the first.


I`m a realist and a data based builder of my own opinions.  Do I understand there was spikes in ballots in certain states at never before discussed or average voters were aware of tabulating times, yes. Was there strange conditions in this election like mail in balloting opened to even more loosened requirements to cast these types of ballots and extending dead lines for casting and counting of these ballots, yes. Do I believe these changes to the perceived "normal" election process caused some really questionable results, yes. 


Did I vote for Trump based on any of those "yes" answers? No, not a one.

 
Do I think the last four years of all out political war made for a great climax of a marketing/media based push by the Democratic Party and their big supporters that made people frightened or scared? Was there a deliberate use of any and all special interest groups concerns to add to the planned fear applications? Was the race card played at every possible application? 


Then 8 years of Jobama leadership that put in place little or no facts that show any Jobama promises were ever achieved or completed? Was there a noticeable drop in crime in the democratic controlled cities? The education, education, education slogan worked well for improving the life's of the working poor? Did we see any relief in education loans? Of course there was never any protesting and vandalism? How many executive orders address discrimination issues? 


I voted the same as four years ago because I woke up to these facts, eight years of wasted time by a president that did very little for those star struck voters. Eight years of agreeing to treaties with such countries that even to this day pray for death to all American`s. Eight years of no economic positivity for the star stuck voters. Stagnant employment levels for eight years. Allowing the big tech and manufacturing giants move products to a country that still vows to control America without firing one bullet. Then for eight years of listening to the great oracle speak his way into the hearts of the heard while doing what? 


Talking and speaking their way into the less intelligent heard hearts works when the heard is so divided. Will it work out for the heard in general? JMO... not ever before has it turned out positive in general. 


Both fact and data are leaning towards another really interesting four years. Positive results? 06 January is history in the making. 
 

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I've said this from the start and I still stand by it. I can accept Joe Biden Kamala Harris winning. I don't like it one bit and what they want to implement is absolutely terrifying but I can accept it. What I absolutely cannot accept is allegations of voter fraud to go unchecked.
 

Pennsylvania looks really fishy (not to mention it appears they didn't even follow their own election laws and the rules were changed by someone unauthorized to change the rules) and I have serious questions about what I've heard coming out of Detroit and other counties in Michigan. It is the legislature's job to investigate this and they’re too busy picking their asses and making new rules that in the grand scheme really don't fucking matter. It's the courts' job to make the legislative branch do their job and so far they just have their fingers in their ears. I know there's a certain segment of morons that won't believe it no matter what but it would do the country at large a great deal of good to make this as transparent as possible and put an end to as many of these questions/claims as possible. Why is one side blocking it? What are they so afraid of? It's asinine for the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and that traitorous bag of dicks Eric Swalwell to flatly deny any malfeasance. If you got nothing to hide, why are you so afraid? 

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1 hour ago, paintguy said:

Never said COVID isn't killing anyone. Obviously it is. Are the numbers padded? Could be treatment of "COVID" pays better than "flu". Coding of medical bills have long been a number game. 


They’ve been saying that we’ll have 250k deaths due to Covid and that matches the number of excess deaths above normal levels.  Without some other cause statistics would say that’s accurate and they aren’t padding the numbers.

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27 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

I've said this from the start and I still stand by it. I can accept Joe Biden Kamala Harris winning. I don't like it one bit and what they want to implement is absolutely terrifying but I can accept it. What I absolutely cannot accept is allegations of voter fraud to go unchecked.
 

Pennsylvania looks really fishy (not to mention it appears they didn't even follow their own election laws and the rules were changed by someone unauthorized to change the rules) and I have serious questions about what I've heard coming out of Detroit and other counties in Michigan. It is the legislature's job to investigate this and they’re too busy picking their asses and making new rules that in the grand scheme really don't fucking matter. It's the courts' job to make the legislative branch do their job and so far they just have their fingers in their ears. I know there's a certain segment of morons that won't believe it no matter what but it would do the country at large a great deal of good to make this as transparent as possible and put an end to as many of these questions/claims as possible. Why is one side blocking it? What are they so afraid of? It's asinine for the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and that traitorous bag of dicks Eric Swalwell to flatly deny any malfeasance. If you got nothing to hide, why are you so afraid? 


There were probably some illegal votes (as there are in any election) but you can’t change or hold up a national election without hard evidence.  Irregularities and suspicions aren’t enough.

 

If you consider each county’s ballot is different and each ballot would have needed a forged signature of a person registered to vote but who did not vote in person.  Almost impossible to do that for tens of thousands of votes and not have someone spill the beans.

 

If they were able to pull this off without leaving any hard evidence then kudos to them.  Fix it so it’s harder next time.

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5 hours ago, akirby said:


There were probably some illegal votes (as there are in any election) but you can’t change or hold up a national election without hard evidence.  Irregularities and suspicions aren’t enough.

 

If you consider each county’s ballot is different and each ballot would have needed a forged signature of a person registered to vote but who did not vote in person.  Almost impossible to do that for tens of thousands of votes and not have someone spill the beans.

 

If they were able to pull this off without leaving any hard evidence then kudos to them.  Fix it so it’s harder next time.

 

Will we ever reach herd immunity to a level that will benefit the herd? Will the herd ever become intelligent through self reliance? Are we proving herd mentality will benefit the herd or just the shepherds?

 

As you`ve stated and I agree there is the need for hard evidence that would put in place a conclusion to benefit either side in this dilemma. But, as many in the herd can agree the level of deception becomes greater and more sophisticated as one travels up the governmental stairs of authority. There are those in the herd that can also agree on how the level of sophisticated deception has magnified over the years to allow the herd to believe what their told without ever thinking about what it is they`ve been told or give any thought to the responses the herd is given from the few questions they may find the courage to ask. Of course this sophistication level of deception puts in place the fear factor that reduces questions. 

 

Data and raw numbers has been proven to be manipulated with little effort by the likes of a car salesman. Then add in a sales manager with the supporting role to add another layer of deception and the sheep has been sold what the facility wants to sell. Encon 101... would this ever occur in the worlds largest business? 

 

Will we ever see any hard evidence of any fraud, irregularities or pull the curtain back on any deception? Would the herd even except the hard evidence if it ever surfaces?  Possibly, but with everything other than herd mentality, the art or science of deception will continue to refine it`s techniques. As for about 48% of the herd the simplistic approach is working just fine, "don`t look over there, there`s nothing to see". 

 

Conspiracy Theorist? nope just have had the pleasure of seeing government deception first hand, in real time and been in reception of redefined data. Here`s to four years of putting the Jobama on as the oldest, never achieved marksman status point man, then pealing off (soon) and putting on point  the first ever democratic socialist... interesting.

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6 hours ago, akirby said:


There were probably some illegal votes (as there are in any election) but you can’t change or hold up a national election without hard evidence.  Irregularities and suspicions aren’t enough.

 

If you consider each county’s ballot is different and each ballot would have needed a forged signature of a person registered to vote but who did not vote in person.  Almost impossible to do that for tens of thousands of votes and not have someone spill the beans.

 

If they were able to pull this off without leaving any hard evidence then kudos to them.  Fix it so it’s harder next time.


Ok, then investigate it anyway and shut up as many contrarians as possible. No, instead they sit on their asses with their fingers in their ears and do nothing. 

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3 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:


Ok, then investigate it anyway and shut up as many contrarians as possible. No, instead they sit on their asses with their fingers in their ears and do nothing. 


In GA they are investigating all reports, but it will take time.  We’ve already done a manual ballot count and the GBI audited 15000 absentee ballot envelopes in one of the larger metro Atlanta counties.  Cant speak for other states.

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1 hour ago, akirby said:


In GA they are investigating all reports, but it will take time.  We’ve already done a manual ballot count and the GBI audited 15000 absentee ballot envelopes in one of the larger metro Atlanta counties.  Cant speak for other states.


What's with that judge (who has a definite conflict of interest and should have probably recused herself) who changed some rule about out of state voting for the GA runoff? That's definitely not cool. 

 

The biggest shit show in all of this is Pennsylvania. I just don't understand how what they did by changing their rules can be even remotely considered constitutional. Michigan isn't much better, and the AG and SoS both need to shut up and actually do their jobs. 

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23 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said:


What's with that judge (who has a definite conflict of interest and should have probably recused herself) who changed some rule about out of state voting for the GA runoff? That's definitely not cool. 


More fake news.  Republicans asked to have 4000 names removed from the voting registry in 2 counties based solely on postal service change of address records without any further verification or validation.  She just ruled that it can’t be done that way (without additional verification).  The counties can still force provisional ballots subject to verification if they choose to do so.  I also think there is a law that precludes removing anyone from the registry within 90 days of an election.

 

Now I think we need serious purging/revalidation of the registry for people who haven’t voted in years and those who have new addresses in a different county/state but that needs to be done in a non election year.

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3 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:


That's why I asked, I didn't know the details. I still think that judge should have recused herself, being Stacy Abrams' sister and all. 


Why?  Abrams isn’t a candidate and her ruling was correct.

 

And I despise Stacy Abrams.

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Why?  Abrams isn’t a candidate and her ruling was correct.

 

And I despise Stacy Abrams.


Because Stacy Abrams has been whining and complaining about having the election stolen from her for years now. It's a terrible look regardless of whether or not it's correct. 

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"Now I think we need serious purging/revalidation of the registry for people who haven’t voted in years and those who have new addresses in a different county/state but that needs to be done in a non election year."

 

I couldn`t agree more but would the "wokers" feel their rights would be infringed on? You know dead people in Chicago have voting rights too. Oh and how would the residents of lower Wacker Drive list their address? 

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3 minutes ago, Decker said:

I couldn`t agree more but would the "wokers" feel their rights would be infringed on? You know dead people in Chicago have voting rights too. Oh and how would the residents of lower Wacker Drive list their address? 

 

I believe the Lower Wacker Drive residents use 1210 W 78th Place Chicago, IL 60620 as their permanent address,,,,

 

HRG

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25 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said:

 

I believe the Lower Wacker Drive residents use 1210 W 78th Place Chicago, IL 60620 as their permanent address,,,,

 

HRG

For non Chicagoland people, that is the address of St. Sabina RC church. Pastor, Fr. Pfleger, a well known advocate for gun control and social justice, would undoubtedly confirm an address for anyone born after John Baptiste DuSable.

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1 hour ago, Decker said:

"Now I think we need serious purging/revalidation of the registry for people who haven’t voted in years and those who have new addresses in a different county/state but that needs to be done in a non election year."

 

I couldn`t agree more but would the "wokers" feel their rights would be infringed on? You know dead people in Chicago have voting rights too. Oh and how would the residents of lower Wacker Drive list their address? 


They’ll cry voter suppression just like they do anytime any effort is made to make it more secure.  
 

in GA state issued picture IDs are free.  We have 3 weeks of advance voting.  You can vote by mail if necessary.  There is nothing to prevent someone from voting if they want to vote.  Yet we still hear voter suppression.  I think it’s just a ploy by democratic leaders to keep themselves relevant and keep up the hatred towards republicans.  And Republicans do the same on different issues.

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21 minutes ago, akirby said:


They’ll cry voter suppression just like they do anytime any effort is made to make it more secure.  
 

in GA state issued picture IDs are free.  We have 3 weeks of advance voting.  You can vote by mail if necessary.  There is nothing to prevent someone from voting if they want to vote.  Yet we still hear voter suppression.  I think it’s just a ploy by democratic leaders to keep themselves relevant and keep up the hatred towards republicans.  And Republicans do the same on different issues.


Same bullshit happens in Detroit too. The reality there is most people just don't give a shit enough to vote. 
 

We also hear the same stuff about gerrymandering and gentrification. 

 

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The bucket of "gray" paint is a never ending source of all types of excuses for not being held accountable as adults in this experiment. There are gray area`s painted up in everything here lately. (lately, is just a figure of speach)

You need to show a state issued license to operate a vehicle, you need to go through all types of background checks to purchase any firearm and if you wanna trim up the short hair styles you better have that picture ID hangin on the wall or... busted.  Then of course those licenses are for the privileged few and the gray paint is all over the education, tests and fee`s charged. 

 

Then participate in a process that might have some real consequences and you can get the gray paint out and paint up any number of excuses like paint over any estalished clock, time zone or date when it comes to any of those suppressive/discriminatory deadlines. 

 

One thing for sure there`s accountabilities in some parts of the world, mostly for those like the Tibetans, Chinese sent to camp, Russians that love the winter weather and socialists in general that don`t act right. (<--- please get out the gray paint for that statement)  So why have someone go through all that suppression/discrimination to make a decision that might take some accountabiliy to participate in the process? :hat_tip:

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3 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said:

 

I believe the Lower Wacker Drive residents use 1210 W 78th Place Chicago, IL 60620 as their permanent address,,,,

 

HRG

 

For sure the good father takes the scripture to a higher level when it comes to "his brothers keeper"......

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Hillary Clinton: 'What we're seeing right now is a president with nothing left to lose''

Is it anything like the plotting and lying before the last election results? Or the temper tantrum`s, pulling your skirt up to stomp those feet`s, causing poor Billy Bob to almost have a nervous break down or the last four years of whining? Or maybe like the four years of sitting with the media and down playing ones husband`s faults and building those millions for the foundation? 

Come on Hilaria you moved on from sleeping alone in the guess bedroom and forgave Billy Bob for keeping you awake with all that noise coming from the oval office... HumHumHum... Ain`t it time to play big shot somewhere else? Maybe there`s an appointment in your future? Executive Caretaker for Jobama?  :future:

 

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