FR739 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 7 hours ago, slemke said: They are taking advantage of the situation. Please read up on who is funding the opposition to the pipeline. Probably the lack of new permits for drilling also. US has plenty of capacity for oil production right now. Not allowing future permits on government land allows current producers to make a little more. Warren Buffet who owns BNSF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I thought I would throw this out there for some fun. https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/ram-trx-transmission-blows-off-road-saved-by-ford-f-150-raptor-video/ Some interesting comments in this article though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 hours ago, tbone said: I thought I would throw this out there for some fun. https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/ram-trx-transmission-blows-off-road-saved-by-ford-f-150-raptor-video/ Some interesting comments in this article though. Maybe ram should have spent more on testing, suspension development, and weight development and less on Easter eggs ridiculing the raptor and marketing. A 392 hemi ala Jeep wrangler at 470hp may have been a better choice for durability and handling balance. But, it wouldn’t get the over the top publicity of a hellcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, slemke said: Maybe ram should have spent more on testing, suspension development, and weight development and less on Easter eggs ridiculing the raptor and marketing. A 392 hemi ala Jeep wrangler at 470hp may have been a better choice for durability and handling balance. But, it wouldn’t get the over the top publicity of a hellcat. All true, but I would bet that the Jeep 392 Wrangler will be just as nose heavy as he complained about in the TRX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, twintornados said: All true, but I would bet that the Jeep 392 Wrangler will be just as nose heavy as he complained about in the TRX. My money is on it being worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: My money is on it being worse Chicken dinner for fuzzy. 3.6l pentastar v6 weighs around 325lbs. 6.4l/392cu in hemi weighs 500lbs. 6.2l hemi weighs 600lbs. Doesn’t include extra plumbing for the inter cooler. anyway, you can buy a hellcat crate engine for under $20k if anyone is interested. 392 hemi is under $9k. For comparison a coyote is 9.5k. I really expected the coyote to be significantly more expensive. I didn’t have any luck in my quick search for a HO 3.5L eco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 11:53 PM, FR739 said: Warren Buffet who owns BNSF. A buffet is a piece of furniture or a type of restaurant. A Buffett is a Warren or a Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) https://www.autoblog.com/2021/04/30/2021-ford-f150-raptor-tremor-pricing-revealed/ Pricing leaked for the Raptor and Tremor. The article mentions a 10k increase over the 2020, but I'm not sure if that's compared to the discontinued SuperCab or SuperCrew. The order guide shows a base price for the 2021 F-150 Raptor of $65,840, including the $1,695 (!) destination charge that Ford tacks onto all F-150 prices. That figure represents a substantial $10K increase over the 2020 version. The Raptor is offered in standard (equipment group 800A) and high-trim (equipment group 801A) versions; the latter is a $6,150 upgrade. Unlike the previous Raptor, which was available in both SuperCab and SuperCrew configurations, the 2021 model is SuperCrew only. As before, power is via Ford's 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6, although horsepower and torque figures for the Raptor have not yet been revealed. You can read more about the new Raptor here. The F-150 Tremor, which is a new addition to the lineup, comes in at $51,200, again including the destination fee. Based on the order guide, it appears the Tremor will be offered in three grades: standard (equipment group 400A), mid (401A, for $6,065), and high (402A, for $13,445). Like the Raptor, the Tremor is a SuperCrew only and features a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 under the hood. We've described the Tremor as "a junior varsity Raptor," you can read more about its specific features here. Edited April 30, 2021 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, rmc523 said: https://www.autoblog.com/2021/04/30/2021-ford-f150-raptor-tremor-pricing-revealed/ Pricing leaked for the Raptor and Tremor. The article mentions a 10k increase over the 2020, but I'm not sure if that's compared to the discontinued SuperCab or SuperCrew. The order guide shows a base price for the 2021 F-150 Raptor of $65,840, including the $1,695 (!) destination charge that Ford tacks onto all F-150 prices. That figure represents a substantial $10K increase over the 2020 version. The Raptor is offered in standard (equipment group 800A) and high-trim (equipment group 801A) versions; the latter is a $6,150 upgrade. Unlike the previous Raptor, which was available in both SuperCab and SuperCrew configurations, the 2021 model is SuperCrew only. As before, power is via Ford's 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6, although horsepower and torque figures for the Raptor have not yet been revealed. You can read more about the new Raptor here. The F-150 Tremor, which is a new addition to the lineup, comes in at $51,200, again including the destination fee. Based on the order guide, it appears the Tremor will be offered in three grades: standard (equipment group 400A), mid (401A, for $6,065), and high (402A, for $13,445). Like the Raptor, the Tremor is a SuperCrew only and features a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 under the hood. We've described the Tremor as "a junior varsity Raptor," you can read more about its specific features here. Just for clarification... the order guides do not include any pricing information which is released in a separate Price List. 2020 F-150 Raptor 4x4 SuperCrew (Price Level Code = 040 - 03/02/2020) MSRP = $56,440 + $1,695 Destination & Delivery Equipment Group - #800A (Base) N/C #801A (Mid) $ 3,785 #802A (Luxury) $10,920 2021 F-150 Raptor 4x4 SuperCrew (Price Level Code = 135 - 04/28/2021) MSRP = $64,145 + $1,695 Destination & Delivery (2020MY > 2021MY = +$7,705) Equipment Group - #800A (Standard) N/C #801A (High) $6,150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ice-capades said: Just for clarification... the order guides do not include any pricing information which is released in a separate Price List. 2020 F-150 Raptor 4x4 SuperCrew (Price Level Code = 040 - 03/02/2020) MSRP = $56,440 + $1,695 Destination & Delivery Equipment Group - #800A (Base) N/C #801A (Mid) $ 3,785 #802A (Luxury) $10,920 2021 F-150 Raptor 4x4 SuperCrew (Price Level Code = 135 - 04/28/2021) MSRP = $64,145 + $1,695 Destination & Delivery (2020MY > 2021MY = +$7,705) Equipment Group - #800A (Standard) N/C #801A (High) $6,150 Yeah, their comment about the order guide having it didn't make sense. Interesting the price jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 At first glance it looks like the 2021 base has the same equipment as the 2020 mid level with a few new things added. I’m sure having the Tremor package at the lower price point is part of the equation. They’ll sell a ton of both even without the Raptor R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, akirby said: At first glance it looks like the 2021 base has the same equipment as the 2020 mid level with a few new things added. I’m sure having the Tremor package at the lower price point is part of the equation. They’ll sell a ton of both even without the Raptor R. Good point about Tremor below it just under the previous Raptor starting price. Also makes sense with there seemingly only being an 800 and 801, but no more 802. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan7 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Also don't forget the potential inclusion of the Ranger Raptor and loosely Bronco Warthog could affect pricing Edited April 30, 2021 by Broncofan7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Broncofan7 said: Also don't forget the inclusion of the Ranger Raptor and loosely Bronco Warthog could affect pricing We also don't know for certain Ranger Raptor is coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan7 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 48 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: We also don't know for certain Ranger Raptor is coming here. True. Original comment edited for accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: We also don't know for certain Ranger Raptor is coming here. Its also possible the sun won’t rise tomorrow morning, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, akirby said: Its also possible the sun won’t rise tomorrow morning, I'm not saying that it isn't a safe bet, it probably is a safe bet. All I'm saying is nothing is confirmed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) Interesting... Tremor is a trim level on F-150 and not an add on option package like it is on the Ranger (available on both XLT and Lariat) $51,200 starting price for Tremor with standard crew cab 5.5' bed, 4x4 and 3.5 EB. It is slightly cheaper than Lariat crew cab 5.5' bed, 4x4 with optional 3.5 EB and FX4, which checks in at $52,885 Have to wait for the configurator or order guide to come out to make sense of it all but the model series number is a good clue on where Ford thinks it slots in: XL = 100A XLT = 300A Tremor = 400A Lariat = 500A King Ranch = 600A Platinum = 700A Raptor = 800A Limited = 900A Edited May 2, 2021 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 5 hours ago, bzcat said: Have to wait for the configurator or order guide to come out to make sense of it all but the model series number is a good clue on where Ford thinks it slots in: XL = 100A XLT = 300A Tremor = 400A Lariat = 500A King Ranch = 600A Platinum = 700A Raptor = 800A Limited = 900A The updated 2021 F-150 Order Guide, with both the Tremor and Raptor specifications, is available in the Dealer Order Guides section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Do we know what the expected mix of Tremors are for the F150 and Ranger? I think Ford has done a great job with creating stepped off road packages starting with FX4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, jcartwright99 said: Do we know what the expected mix of Tremors are for the F150 and Ranger? No information from Ford that I can find. They used to include projected mix info in the order guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 5/1/2021 at 10:01 AM, fuzzymoomoo said: I'm not saying that it isn't a safe bet, it probably is a safe bet. All I'm saying is nothing is confirmed. Correct, god forbid that Ford lay out a decent road map of future product, gotta keep it a national secret in case buyers and investors get excited....... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Hi Ice, any idea when the order guide will be available? I thought it was supposed to be available now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, tbone said: Hi Ice, any idea when the order guide will be available? I thought it was supposed to be available now. He posted it last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) My bad, I don’t know how I missed that. Thanks for the heads up. Edited May 3, 2021 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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