Harley Lover Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Ford would appear to have interesting options if the decision is made to manufacture batteries. Solid Power, a company in which Ford have an investment stake (along with BMW and others) has made solid progress (pun intended) on solid state batteries: Quote The company said it is now producing 20 amp-hour (Ah) multi-layer solid state lithium metal batteries. The 330 Wh/kg, 22-layer cells have higher energy density than any commercially available lithium-ion battery manufactured today according to the company. It says it expects its batteries to exceed 400 Wh/kg by 2022. That’s great news, but here’s the exciting part. Solid Power solid state cells can be manufactured at commercial scale using industry standard lithium-ion roll-to-roll production equipment. The 20 Ah cells are currently being validated by Solid Power’s automotive partners, including Ford and BMW. Other investors in the company include Hyundai, Volta Energy, Solvay, and Samsung. Solid Power has already shipped more than 400 prototype solid state cells to external parties for independent performance validation and expects to begin the formal automotive qualification process with even larger capacity solid state battery cells in early 2022. https://cleantechnica.com/2020/12/11/solid-state-batteries-theyre-everywhere-theyre-everywhere/ Edited December 31, 2020 by Harley Lover 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks for the article. I was curious what Ford was doing with solid state batteries. I had heard Toyota was well on its way of producing their own batteries that should be available in a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Do you guys forsee a future where the road itself provides an electrical charge capable of wirelessly charging and powering electric vehicles, or is that too science fiction? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 hours ago, probowler said: Do you guys forsee a future where the road itself provides an electrical charge capable of wirelessly charging and powering electric vehicles, or is that too science fiction? I could imagine a parking spot or garage floor that is engineered to wirelessly charge an EV while parked there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, twintornados said: I could imagine a parking spot or garage floor that is engineered to wirelessly charge an EV while parked there. Agreed. Entire roads would be large infrastructure improvement not worth the cost. Maybe on limited high traffic routes....but upgrading a rail line to use electric might be a more cost effective option. One of the reasons I think government should step back and let business compete for the best solutions. I recall Qualcomm having some sort of wireless car charging pad. Efficiency wasn’t great, but it sure would be convenient to pull into a spot, have the car charging while running an errand, and automatically billed to your account. Infrastructure like that would make smaller/cheaper battery packs more desirable for commuting and local errands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 17 hours ago, probowler said: Do you guys forsee a future where the road itself provides an electrical charge capable of wirelessly charging and powering electric vehicles, or is that too science fiction? With smaller and lighter weight batteries/capacitors, it may also be possible to incorporate more and different sources of regenerative power within vehicles. Some suspect suspensions could also be used to generate power (in addition to braking systems, which have been doing this for many years). It may also be easier to incorporate solar type arrays into body panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Donaldo said: With smaller and lighter weight batteries/capacitors, it may also be possible to incorporate more and different sources of regenerative power within vehicles. Some suspect suspensions could also be used to generate power (in addition to braking systems, which have been doing this for many years). It may also be easier to incorporate solar type arrays into body panels. Regenerative shocks? That would be pretty cool.... but I think good shocks are already too expensive, I'd hate to see the price on those puppies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 8:55 PM, probowler said: Do you guys forsee a future where the road itself provides an electrical charge capable of wirelessly charging and powering electric vehicles, or is that too science fiction? It's a little different than what you're talking about, but I recall reading some time back about different companies working on "solar roads", i.e., the roads were also solar panels. I remember one of the biggest issues they were having was durability with traffic going over it and cells getting dirty. They'd likely have similar issues with what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Solid Power expects to have solid state battery cell prototypes ready for validation testing by the end of 2022. Ford and BMW get first dibs. BMW, Ford to get first Solid Power solid-state battery cells by year-end | Automotive News Europe (autonews.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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